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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Psyclopse
You do realize you just screwed me out of an Excursion hauling a 5th wheel joke, right?

Oh well, I'll just use this space to request a BUILD THREAD!!!
Yeah I run interference from time to time...
Anything's possible with a torch. Remember the shortened vans?

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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by dihedralboy
I have the 5.4 in a 4wd. Honesty it's not that slow. Those who say that have not driven one and just keep saying that to justify their v10. Which they don't have to. They have extra power.

the 5.4 gets up to 60 mph just fine. Sure from 60-70 passing isn't a rocket ship, but there are tonnes of slower vehicles. It's not slow.

Struggling is not the right definition for this motor. Maybe not excessively overpowered.

I would not state it's a towing engine, but I am sure it can tow more than a pop up.. But it's fine for hauling around itself.

I have 4:10 gears, I even get decent MPG. Which is around 14-16 US (16.8 Imp MPG on last run)

Drive an old diesel mercedes, or vw, or land cruiser. Then talk to me about slow.
The diesel Mercedes were fast compared to a Diesel Oldsmobile...
 
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Pele
Yep. I don't plan on keeping the 5.4L V8 for very long. Maybe a year or so.
The displacement is close, but it's got too many cylinders...And that whole ignition system thing. Plus, it needs a turbo.

5.9L I6 Cummins is the plan.

Haven't decided on what I'm doing for the trans. Keep the 4R100, go with the Dodge 48RE, or be a glutton for punishment and figure out how to work an Allison 1000.
To each his own, but why not buy a diesel excursion and be done?
 
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Archion
The diesel Mercedes were fast compared to a Diesel Oldsmobile...
Probably LOL. My diesel mercedes had no turbo and was nothing quick.

Why someone asks not buy a diesel excursion off the get go? Mainly when I looked everything was high miles. If you found a clean gasser, and low miles cummins there is kits and help to get it in there. The cummins has a good reputation.

Also to note, a pulled 5.4 might be easier to sell after the conversion than a v10. But that is a might.. I feel it would be easier to sell it, as there is so many F150 out there with them.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigpipes 35
I better not tell my 5.4 that it is only suited to pull a popup or it may rebel and not pull my 10,000 pound fifth wheel anymore !!!
What'd you do, the barn door to tailgate conversion?
Look anything like this?







I love the lumber in the last pic. Something about how it's trimmed down to fit into the drawbar.


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To each his own, but why not buy a diesel excursion and be done?
Because Diesel Excursions around here are $10,000 for one in rough (rusty) shape, Closer to $15-20K for one that hasn't sat at the bottom of the ocean.

Gasoline Excursions are running $3000-7000, closer to the bottom end for V8s.


Also, Price out a set of injectors on a 7.3...
Price out a high pressure oil pump...
Then you've gotta have a Ford scanner to buzz test the injectors. (I don't even know what Buzz testing is for.)
Gotta make sure the coolant has anti-cavitation additive in it. (Went through that can of worms with my 7.3 IDI.)

F all that nonsense. Ain't nobody got time fo dat.

Cummins 12 or 24 valve injectors are like $200-300 a set of six.

VP44 injection pump is about a grand and will last 200K miles if you treat it nice. (Don't run dirty fuel or "alternative" fuels such as used engine oil, Install good fuel filters down to below 4 micron, add lubricity enhancers such as TCW-3 Two Stroke oil or Optilube to Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel at about a 1:128 ratio, and have a good lift pump to supply the VP44 with fuel at 14-20 PSI at all times.)


So it's twofold... Mainly, it's a cost thing, but it's also a big unfamiliarity with the HEUI system used on the PowerStroke.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Archion
Yeah I run interference from time to time...
Anything's possible with a torch. Remember the shortened vans?

/hijack
You guys do know any Excursion can easily hook up to a 5th wheel, right?

You just need the right equipment.



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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 03:10 PM
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PS - The above is tongue planted firmly in cheek. Not sure if the winky smiley face properly conveyed that or not, since I haven't heard good things about the Buddy Hitch, and I don't even think it's made anymore.

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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 08:56 PM
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Now that would be fun to park, with all the extra pivot points…

I had a tow dolly for a car behind my motorhome. The dolly had a turntable on it, and was narrower than the motorhome. I could have thrown out my reverse gear, as even if I wanted I could not back up. With an overhang of 10 feet behind the rear wheels of my class c and then the car was a short VW golf. I think I went insane trying to back out of a parking lot one night. I've never been the same since….
 
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dihedralboy
Now that would be fun to park, with all the extra pivot points…
I believe the Buddy Hitch was solid through to the vehicle receiver hitch. No ball, no pivot.

From what I remember when I read about these things years ago, it was that design that made it work, but also caused problems.

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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by dihedralboy
Drive an old diesel mercedes, or vw, or land cruiser. Then talk to me about slow.

Lol, that 80's 1.6l VW diesel was great on fuel, but 0-60 in 30 secs. (n a 2200 lb vehicle).
 
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 11:29 AM
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Yes they dont make the Hitch-Buddy anymore but they make the new and improved version. Watch the videos first before coming to a conclusion especially the maneuvering video, pretty cool.


The Automated Safety Hitch | Trailer Hitch | Gooseneck Horse Trailers | 5th Wheel RVs | Flatbed Goosenecks | Fifth Wheel
 
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Pitcrw6
Yes they dont make the Hitch-Buddy anymore but they make the new and improved version. Watch the videos first before coming to a conclusion especially the maneuvering video, pretty cool.


The Automated Safety Hitch | Trailer Hitch | Gooseneck Horse Trailers | 5th Wheel RVs | Flatbed Goosenecks | Fifth Wheel
That is awesome, See that's what I was talking about all you 5.4 Excursion fifth wheel pullers..
 
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