1st Road Trip
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GW:
That is interesting, you could be right. The PCM and Torque Pro sends and receives data by priority. Although I assume that you haven’t changed the settings in the PID, I did while testing and the DIA didn’t change also (froze). There should be a blinking green light (dot) on the display that I believe will tell you that Torque is sending or receiving data for that PID. Also if you change display screens and back, if the display doesn’t refresh quickly (or slow to show a value), it could mean that it is getting data or might not like one of your settings. Example: my friend’s older phone won’t work with the Header set to auto and my phone will, his phone won’t work right with the Bluetooth set to fast communication?
As you know, I’m new to this and your data is helpful. Thanks again for the information.
That is interesting, you could be right. The PCM and Torque Pro sends and receives data by priority. Although I assume that you haven’t changed the settings in the PID, I did while testing and the DIA didn’t change also (froze). There should be a blinking green light (dot) on the display that I believe will tell you that Torque is sending or receiving data for that PID. Also if you change display screens and back, if the display doesn’t refresh quickly (or slow to show a value), it could mean that it is getting data or might not like one of your settings. Example: my friend’s older phone won’t work with the Header set to auto and my phone will, his phone won’t work right with the Bluetooth set to fast communication?
As you know, I’m new to this and your data is helpful. Thanks again for the information.
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Man this new 6.7 AR's a lot. Since we've been here on vacation we've been driving about 50-150 mi/day. Trucks been doing an "active regen" every 50-100 miles. They seem to be of short duration tho, 5-8 miles. I've lost count of the AR's since I dropped my 5ver on Fri. Trucks running great tho, so I guess its normal. Maybe I shouldn't be watching the Torque Pro so much. Lol
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Man this new 6.7 AR's a lot. Since we've been here on vacation we've been driving about 50-150 mi/day. Trucks been doing an "active regen" every 50-100 miles. They seem to be of short duration tho, 5-8 miles. I've lost count of the AR's since I dropped my 5ver on Fri. Trucks running great tho, so I guess its normal. Maybe I shouldn't be watching the Torque Pro so much. Lol
Get on the highway and finish the regen or get a edge cts and put it into a manual regen in your driveway if you cant drive it to finish it.
But if you are on the highway and its still not finishing the regen a trip to dealer is in order for sure.
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My guess would be the regeneration isnt completing.Egts need to stay up and above a certain rpm I believe.So if its only going for 5-8 miles it sounds like it just doing a very minimal regen and then you drive 50-100 and its at its regen thresh hold again and goes into a regen.You def should not have a regen evety 50-100 miles if it completely finishes the cycle.
Get on the highway and finish the regen or get a edge cts and put it into a manual regen in your driveway if you cant drive it to finish it.
But if you are on the highway and its still not finishing the regen a trip to dealer is in order for sure.
Get on the highway and finish the regen or get a edge cts and put it into a manual regen in your driveway if you cant drive it to finish it.
But if you are on the highway and its still not finishing the regen a trip to dealer is in order for sure.
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I believe regens are completing, monitoring with torque pro and I drive it till the regen light goes off and then some. Egt12-14 are geting to 1100°-1275° range during regen. Soot% usually gets down to 0.3%-0.6%. But egts when not in regen are 350°-550° and soot% rises pretty quickly. Truck only has 1500 miles on it and we're 750mi from my dealership. On the trip here with our 5ver in tow it regened twice, at 3 miles and around 500mi into the trip. If it keeps this up I will have it checked when I get home and have it serviced
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Yup,sounds like its completeing.def get it checked if it continuesNot right.When my truck was new I would go 500 miles between regens.Now Im around 350-400 a regen consistantly unless towing then its much longer if any.Mostly just passive.You are burning more fuel then you should be for sure I would think.
Im wondering what the soot percentage is when you start the regen? Sounds like with the amount of time you are in a regen that it is going into a regen way before its over the 90% range.Mine will take much longer then 5-8 miles.Im usually in high nineties soot percentage when it regens.
Im wondering what the soot percentage is when you start the regen? Sounds like with the amount of time you are in a regen that it is going into a regen way before its over the 90% range.Mine will take much longer then 5-8 miles.Im usually in high nineties soot percentage when it regens.
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Yup,sounds like its completeing.def get it checked if it continuesNot right.When my truck was new I would go 500 miles between regens.Now Im around 350-400 a regen consistantly unless towing then its much longer if any.Mostly just passive.You are burning more fuel then you should be for sure I would think.
Im wondering what the soot percentage is when you start the regen? Sounds like with the amount of time you are in a regen that it is going into a regen way before its over the 90% range.Mine will take much longer then 5-8 miles.Im usually in high nineties soot percentage when it regens.
Im wondering what the soot percentage is when you start the regen? Sounds like with the amount of time you are in a regen that it is going into a regen way before its over the 90% range.Mine will take much longer then 5-8 miles.Im usually in high nineties soot percentage when it regens.
Thanks for the info
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Yup,sounds like its completeing.def get it checked if it continuesNot right.When my truck was new I would go 500 miles between regens.Now Im around 350-400 a regen consistantly unless towing then its much longer if any.Mostly just passive.You are burning more fuel then you should be for sure I would think.
Im wondering what the soot percentage is when you start the regen? Sounds like with the amount of time you are in a regen that it is going into a regen way before its over the 90% range.Mine will take much longer then 5-8 miles.Im usually in high nineties soot percentage when it regens.
Im wondering what the soot percentage is when you start the regen? Sounds like with the amount of time you are in a regen that it is going into a regen way before its over the 90% range.Mine will take much longer then 5-8 miles.Im usually in high nineties soot percentage when it regens.
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GW:
Mine does the same thing, start and stop city driving MPG is the same and pulling my trailer at 65 mph. You must mean average mpg (11.7) I watch the second screen, the bar graph is average in 1 minute. ? Also I use ford cetane boost and when I use high grade fuel, I get better mpg and less soot.
Mine does the same thing, start and stop city driving MPG is the same and pulling my trailer at 65 mph. You must mean average mpg (11.7) I watch the second screen, the bar graph is average in 1 minute. ? Also I use ford cetane boost and when I use high grade fuel, I get better mpg and less soot.
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WOW, you guys are data hogs and must only look at the road every once in a while you are looking at the gauges so much 
I just drive mine... and have noticed the regen message maybe twice in 20k miles and a year...
course I'm not worried about mpg etc... since I just got a tool to tow my rv with and it is what it is - so I just use it and no worries so far !
I just drive mine... and have noticed the regen message maybe twice in 20k miles and a year...
course I'm not worried about mpg etc... since I just got a tool to tow my rv with and it is what it is - so I just use it and no worries so far !
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WOW, you guys are data hogs and must only look at the road every once in a while you are looking at the gauges so much
I just drive mine... and have noticed the regen message maybe twice in 20k miles and a year...
course I'm not worried about mpg etc... since I just got a tool to tow my rv with and it is what it is - so I just use it and no worries so far !
I just drive mine... and have noticed the regen message maybe twice in 20k miles and a year...
course I'm not worried about mpg etc... since I just got a tool to tow my rv with and it is what it is - so I just use it and no worries so far !
my truck is a "tool" as well, since I use it to pull my RV, and I live in my RV when I'm working out of town. But, I like to understand, if possible, how my "tool" is working and why, thats just me...but my wife would tend to agree with you tho... lol
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GW:
Mine does the same thing, start and stop city driving MPG is the same and pulling my trailer at 65 mph. You must mean average mpg (11.7) I watch the second screen, the bar graph is average in 1 minute. ? Also I use ford cetane boost and when I use high grade fuel, I get better mpg and less soot.
Mine does the same thing, start and stop city driving MPG is the same and pulling my trailer at 65 mph. You must mean average mpg (11.7) I watch the second screen, the bar graph is average in 1 minute. ? Also I use ford cetane boost and when I use high grade fuel, I get better mpg and less soot.
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It did another active regen yesterday on a trip in town. Was still in regen when I got back to RV, I decided to try idea I got from another FTE member on another thread (regen frequency). When I put it in park, regen light went off, but I left eng running. I held revs up around 1500 and watched my temps in TP. It took a few minutes for temps on egt13 & 14 to get below 700°, but also noticed soot% and mass continued to drop, 11% & 0.2 respectively. Then DIA reset to 0.2 miles. Once everything stabilized I shut eng down.
Did the DIA reset while the engine was running in park or did you recycle the key off and on? It might mean a way that I could get the DIA to work in real time? All the other stuff I can understand.
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It had to have reset while running. I didn't restart till this morning and it still read 0.2.