Exhaust Filter Cleaning
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When I was at the dealership trading in my two for the current 6.7, they had asked me was my emissions system all there and fully functional (it was, I'm one of the few that still recommended having a fully functioning one on a 6.0).
I had asked them why. They told me that they don't buy vehicles back without it, because it's too much hassle and if they were, it would add a huge hit to the trade in value. They would have to revert it back to stock then and resell it.
Diesels and gas aren't exempt in of themselves. It depends on weight for your regular inspections (at least where mine is tagged). However, if you blow too much smoke and cause attention to yourself, they can (and will) write you a ticket for lacking emissions equipment. If you get one of those, you have to show proof that you fixed it. And I frequent states that are known for their lax vehicular laws, for the most part.
It's not worth it in my mind and if an owner of an 06 6.0 (thought to be one of the worst years for the EGR Coolers and out of 9 yrs, still had my original one) can say that, I think the high odds of failure would preclude any owner thinking like that.
#18
two types of cleaning.
Passive: Where the engine is working hard enough and hot enough to burn the soot off on its own. This is the best as it does not use any fuel, just the heat that is generated.
Active: This is the one where you will see the brief message. It can vary as to well this is called for. depends upon the soot level in the DPF. Unless you have something you can monitor it with you will not know the exact duration, but estimate 5-10 miles at most.
Also an active message is the mandatory drive to clean exhaust message. This happens when there has been too many interruptions of the cleaning cycle. When this occurs the message usually will stay present till completed. This message is rare though.
Passive: Where the engine is working hard enough and hot enough to burn the soot off on its own. This is the best as it does not use any fuel, just the heat that is generated.
Active: This is the one where you will see the brief message. It can vary as to well this is called for. depends upon the soot level in the DPF. Unless you have something you can monitor it with you will not know the exact duration, but estimate 5-10 miles at most.
Also an active message is the mandatory drive to clean exhaust message. This happens when there has been too many interruptions of the cleaning cycle. When this occurs the message usually will stay present till completed. This message is rare though.
#19
Mine did a regen for the first time today. I am at just over 600 miles and it seemed to last somewhere between 5 and 10 miles. The instant fuel mileage indicator was showing way lower than it usually does on the highway. My average mpg before and after stayed at 15.0, so it didn't seem to affect my fuel mileage too much.
#20
Senix I don't know what you think but I am very sure the 6.7L technology is far superior to the 6.4. I bought an edge insight and monitor everything. Sometimes the DPF will light up and burn from 100% down to 40 or so and quit because it senses I'm in traffic. When towing at highway speeds it rarely ever has to clean as the passive keeps it happy. Much better.
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#22
Senix I don't know what you think but I am very sure the 6.7L technology is far superior to the 6.4. I bought an edge insight and monitor everything. Sometimes the DPF will light up and burn from 100% down to 40 or so and quit because it senses I'm in traffic. When towing at highway speeds it rarely ever has to clean as the passive keeps it happy. Much better.
So I guess about 1200 miles or so and no active regens.
#23
If you use a CTS, you can monitor the regen status and even force one to start.
#24
To force one to start, the truck must be parked.
#25
Thanks for that info! I found the tourque pro app, but which app do you use? Paid/free/bluetooth? And do you use any of the plugins for the app? Do you have to purchase a cable to connect?
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I don't see how that could really work when someone lives in an area where you are going to hit stretches of road that make your instant MPG go to almost nil for quite a while just because you are dealing with terrain and a speed limit that isn't conducive to instant MPG readings.
#27
I can watch my L/100km display go way up during a regen. Recently it did regens both times I had it on the highway for an hr, between the regens was maybe 50km of in town driving. Normally on the highway it'll run about 12-13 L/100km, during a regen the display goes over 20L/100km, it seems to last about 20-25km or so (~15mi). I reset the avg fuel mileage when it starts, then when I see the avg start to drop then I know the regen is over.
#28
I don't see how that could really work when someone lives in an area where you are going to hit stretches of road that make your instant MPG go to almost nil for quite a while just because you are dealing with terrain and a speed limit that isn't conducive to instant MPG readings.
The instant drops to one bar on mine whereas the same area normally is 2-3 bars or all bars.
It's all about learning what is normal and what isn't for the roads you drive normally.
If you want perfect results, go after market.
#29
Not really any other options from the factory.
The instant drops to one bar on mine whereas the same area normally is 2-3 bars or all bars.
It's all about learning what is normal and what isn't for the roads you drive normally.
If you want perfect results, go after market.
The instant drops to one bar on mine whereas the same area normally is 2-3 bars or all bars.
It's all about learning what is normal and what isn't for the roads you drive normally.
If you want perfect results, go after market.
#30
I use the $5 paid version of Torque Pro on my Samsung G3 smartphone with a $20 Bluetooth BAFX adapter I bought off Amazon. I also bought cheap Bluetooth mini clones for my other vehicles.
I’m not an expert with the App, just a consumer and it can be a steep learning curve for some to use, it is not plug and play. I have started a 6.7L Thread on the developer’s forum were other 6.7L owners can help. A Ford diesel tech first showed me the App and I had a chance to use it before I invested $25. Only you know if it is worth it to you. The developer is a one man band and can’t test the App on all vehicles so you get out of it what you put into it. I have created about 30 custom PIDs for the 6.7L and have posted them on the developer’s forum and others so it will be easier for new users then it was for me. I don’t have any connection with the Developer and still learning myself.