Ok, this is funny so I made sure the wiring on the solenoid was correct, thanks for the double check, Turbohunter. Still would not fire, so I did a quick tighten on everything that I had already messed with and push on all the spark plug and coil wires, then hit the key one last time before I pulled the carb.......................IT BLOODY STARTS, ALMOST BEFORE I TOUCH THE BLOODY KEY!!!!!!


After it ran for a while, I shut it down and tried again.......IT BLOODY STARTS, ALMOST BEFORE I TOUCH THE BLOODY KEY!!!!!!

Time to walk away for a little while........ So today I decided to do the idle screw check and it passed, died with the screws all the way in. So no blown power valve, still idles at 18in

What I figure happened is the starter solenoid failed in a unique way. I realized that when I tried to start it, it only started after I released the key. Sometimes it would kick back and pop a couple of times backwards. I pulled a plug wire and checked for spark with a screwdriver to the valve cover using my remote starter with no spark noted, tried it again and no spark noted until after I released the trigger, it kicked back and the wire popped three times. In other words, no spark in "START", but there is spark in "RUN". Once I replaced the solenoid and everything was tight, everything works and it runs. Thank you for your help and "VIRTUAL REPS" to Turbohunter

 

Awesome
Glad you figured it out.
Sometimes it's a bitch to figure out where to look eh?

 

"I realized that when I tried to start it, it only started after I released the key. In other words, no spark in "START", but there is spark in "RUN". "

I experienced this same problem a few years ago and it drove me nuts too. In my situation I had inadvertently knocked the the little wire (push-on connector) off the small terminal of the starter solenoid just enough to not make contact. I think I had just replaced the alternator belt and must have knocked it off with my coat sleeve.

 

Yeah, when I was a kid, my Dad got really bored with coming to get me because my Mustang would not start....... because the battery terminals were dirty. I was going through and making sure everything was clean, including taking a 40 drill bit and wrapping sandpaper around it to clean inside the terminal sockets when I found the melty stuff mentioned a couple of posts back

 

That was where I was heading, I think it was probably a spark issue from the sounds of it, I have battled the same thing, burned the starter up, and tried to create a nuclear holocaust with the emulsions of fire and pump premium from the exhaust of a 545 stroker that left a big round black spot on the concrete behind my house from the right bank spontaneously igniting after a day of cranking trying to start it from troubleshooting then an ignition of perfectly atomized air, fuel, and a little bit of heat it was much like a primitive musket aimed at the ground and touched off. Glad shes fixed.

 

So, I had it running fine for a while, then it has started to do the same thing again, intermittently. Is there some trouble shooting steps that I can use to isolate the problem so that I can FIX this?

 

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