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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 09:53 AM
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ZF5 to E40D swap

I know this doesnt seem to be a traditional swap from what I've see/researched so far esp. on this forum but I am swapping an e40d into the truck soon. I got lucky enough to get an stock e40d, flexplate, TC, peddle assembly, crossmember, and shifter for $300 off of a guy who did the opposite swap.

Things I've noticed I still need: auto gauge cluster, wiring/ computer. What else may i be missing?

Does the computer I already run this tranny if I flash it/ find one in a junk yard?

I plan on a TC and vlave body from Racer-X and a good rebuild kit (from where?) before putting this in.

Any other input before diving in?

Thank you in advanced for any input!!!
 
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 10:09 AM
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Interesting. You don't need the gauge cluster. You need the indicator needle, linkage, and to remove the black block off bar. The gears indicators are down there.

I believe you'll need an auto pcm. It would appear that an auto pcm will run a manual, but I dont see how a manual pcm could run the auto.

You shouldn't need the whole truck wiring harness, just the transmission harness. Did you get the shift tube that sits on top of the column?

The e40d also uses a different transfer case linkage.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 10:14 AM
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Don't forget the solid pan for the floor hump. And the driveshaft(s).

Perhaps you could swap PCMs with the dude doing the E4OD->ZF5 swap.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 10:17 AM
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Oh and the flexplate spacer.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by FI460
Interesting. You don't need the gauge cluster. You need the indicator needle, linkage, and to remove the black block off bar. The gears indicators are down there.

I believe you'll need an auto pcm. It would appear that an auto pcm will run a manual, but I dont see how a manual pcm could run the auto.

You shouldn't need the whole truck wiring harness, just the transmission harness. Did you get the shift tube that sits on top of the column?

The e40d also uses a different transfer case linkage.
My bro has a built e40d in his OBS and I love it. His drives nice and get better MPG's than me ( I know the ZF5 is geared a little lower). MPG's is one of the bigger reasons for doing this.

I do have the shift tube and flex plate spacer

Looks like I need the needle, linkage, PCM, tranny harness and T-case linkage.

Any one jump to a manual valve body?
 
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jchosler
My bro has a built e40d in his OBS and I love it. His drives nice and get better MPG's than me ( I know the ZF5 is geared a little lower). MPG's is one of the bigger reasons for doing this.

I do have the shift tube and flex plate spacer

Looks like I need the needle, linkage, PCM, tranny harness and T-case linkage.

Any one jump to a manual valve body?
FWIW I saw zero mileage change when I swapped from the e40d to the zf5. I'm not trying to dissuade you, just dont set all your hopes on mileage alone .
 
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jchosler
My bro has a built e40d in his OBS and I love it. His drives nice and get better MPG's than me ( I know the ZF5 is geared a little lower). MPG's is one of the bigger reasons for doing this.

I do have the shift tube and flex plate spacer

Looks like I need the needle, linkage, PCM, tranny harness and T-case linkage.

Any one jump to a manual valve body?
Don't waist your time with the factory wiring and PCM.

Go with a stand alone controller.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 08:04 PM
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I still have all my auto parts from when we did the ZF swap. PM me and we can discuss what you need. I'd even be open to PCM swap.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 08:09 PM
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Might need driveshafts.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 08:26 PM
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Might need driveshafts.
Might? How about definitely. Or you can have yours altered. All in all mine were about 500 bucks to cut/lengthen. This included balancing, new u joints and carrier bearing though.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by trackspeeder
Don't waist your time with the factory wiring and PCM.

Go with a stand alone controller.
Tell me more about the controller! I got a John Woods but still don't like the way it shifts.
 
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Old May 1, 2014 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by tshrager
I still have all my auto parts from when we did the ZF swap. PM me and we can discuss what you need. I'd even be open to PCM swap.

That sounds good to me. We'll talk soon!!
 
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Old May 1, 2014 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by oldbird1965
Tell me more about the controller! I got a John Woods but still don't like the way it shifts.

I'd like to hear more about this as well if anyone has experiance with it.
 
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Old May 1, 2014 | 08:43 AM
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finally an upgrade thread.

controller:
The US Shift Transmission Control System
 
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Old May 1, 2014 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by FORDF250HDXLT
finally an upgrade thread.

controller:
The US Shift Transmission Control System

Not bad, if I'm reading it correctly its saying $565 for the controller and wiring. That would make swapping it easier but would add another chunk

I know that tuner can allow custom shifting options and so on but my question is that if this truck does mostly towing with some occasional day to day then is a stock PCM fine with a new vlave body or is the controller with the valve body that much cooler?
 
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