Notices

Compression Ratio

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 19, 2014 | 06:34 PM
  #1  
Frankinstine's Avatar
Frankinstine
Thread Starter
|
Cross-Country
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 53
Likes: 2
From: Sioux Falls
Compression Ratio

I have a 390 with that, I think, has 9.5 comp pistons and stoc heads. I wanted to know what compression will be with cj 428 heads on it. I have done quite a bit of looking on the internet and the cj heads have a 69 cc chamber and the stock heads have a 72 cc chamber. I'm looking to get around 10.5 compression when I'm done. Should I keep these pistons or get flat tops or will that be too much compression with the cj heads?
 
Reply
Old Apr 19, 2014 | 10:45 PM
  #2  
85e150's Avatar
85e150
Super Moderator
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 34,466
Likes: 2,798
Club FTE Gold Member
This here says the CJ heads are 72.8 to 75.8 cc.

FE Series Engine Specification Chart

Why do you think you have 9.5 pistons? Was this a car engine or was it rebuilt with the car "Regular Fuel" (or 360 spec) dished piston with valve reliefs?
 
Reply
Old Apr 20, 2014 | 07:56 AM
  #3  
69cj's Avatar
69cj
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,834
Likes: 25
From: Middle Tn.
Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
This here says the CJ heads are 72.8 to 75.8 cc.

FE Series Engine Specification Chart

Why do you think you have 9.5 pistons? Was this a car engine or was it rebuilt with the car "Regular Fuel" (or 360 spec) dished piston with valve reliefs?
And the brass ring goes to /\ /\. My CJ heads measured out at 74cc.
 
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2014 | 07:55 PM
  #4  
Frankinstine's Avatar
Frankinstine
Thread Starter
|
Cross-Country
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 53
Likes: 2
From: Sioux Falls
It was a car enging that started as a 352 and the pistons I got have a small dish in them.

I got the cheacked the cc with a casting number and the mechine shop here in town called to somewhere and thats what they told me from it. Thi casting number is C8AEH.
 
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2014 | 09:20 AM
  #5  
MIKES 68 F100's Avatar
MIKES 68 F100
Logistics Pro
10 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 4,762
Likes: 54
From: Antelope Valley ,CA
my c8ae-h heads had 72cc
 
Reply
Old May 1, 2014 | 11:58 PM
  #6  
jonezzzman's Avatar
jonezzzman
Mountain Pass
10 Year Member
Liked
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 131
Likes: 0
From: Spanish Springs
Maybe this will help. The hard part is getting accurate numbers to plug in.

http://www.summitracing.com/popup/ca...ion-calculator
 
Reply
Old May 3, 2014 | 06:36 AM
  #7  
smoothcriminal69's Avatar
smoothcriminal69
Freshman User
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
C8aeh heads did have the smaller chamber, I had to surface mine and ended up at 70cc , but if you have an opportunity to get a set of cj heads jump at it, the runners and ports are where the FE's power is bound. The best heads in my opinion were either the 58 machined heads or the 64 large runner castings, both flow much better than the c8. The 58's are hard to find but most have the 30° intake seats that the cj heads have , as do some of the 64's. My experience is that a 9.0cr with a great set of heads will outrun most 10.0+ motors with unported c8 heads. Oh and the whole pump gas vs race gas thing too.
 
Reply
Old May 11, 2014 | 07:01 PM
  #8  
Frankinstine's Avatar
Frankinstine
Thread Starter
|
Cross-Country
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 53
Likes: 2
From: Sioux Falls
Well you guys are right they are a 72 cc head.

Can I get better flow out of the heads I have with a port and pollish?
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-3

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-6

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

 Joe Kucinski
Old May 12, 2014 | 09:14 AM
  #9  
MIKES 68 F100's Avatar
MIKES 68 F100
Logistics Pro
10 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 4,762
Likes: 54
From: Antelope Valley ,CA
well of course
 
Reply
Old May 15, 2014 | 10:19 PM
  #10  
Frankinstine's Avatar
Frankinstine
Thread Starter
|
Cross-Country
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 53
Likes: 2
From: Sioux Falls
Originally Posted by MIKES 68 F100
well of course
Ok I said that badly. Will they out run the other heads talked about? I have a cousin who works in a mechineshop and can do it for a case of beer.
 
Reply
Old May 16, 2014 | 02:19 PM
  #11  
smoothcriminal69's Avatar
smoothcriminal69
Freshman User
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Don't let your cousin do a case of beer job on them, heads are the key to a potent motor, if you get them done get someone to flow bench them , and be sure to bowl blend the chamber. And yes *if *they are ported well and you put the bigger valves they will perform with the other heads.
 
Reply
Old May 16, 2014 | 03:42 PM
  #12  
smoothcriminal69's Avatar
smoothcriminal69
Freshman User
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Also, did you go over bore? The 352 had a 4.0 inch bore and the 390 is 4.050, if you run the 352 piston on the 390 rotating assembly it may well hang out of the deck a fair bit, definitely not going to run on the c8 head. What is the height from the center of the piston pin to the top? Has the block been decked or machined at all?
 
Reply
Old May 18, 2014 | 03:38 PM
  #13  
Frankinstine's Avatar
Frankinstine
Thread Starter
|
Cross-Country
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 53
Likes: 2
From: Sioux Falls
I have 390 pistons. The block has not been decked yet its in the plans tho same with a balance, port and polish, line hone and I'm still decideing on cam a lifters. Would you folks have any suggestions?
 
Reply
Old May 18, 2014 | 05:30 PM
  #14  
85e150's Avatar
85e150
Super Moderator
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 34,466
Likes: 2,798
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Frankinstine
I have 390 pistons. The block has not been decked yet its in the plans tho same with a balance, port and polish, line hone and I'm still decideing on cam a lifters. Would you folks have any suggestions?
390 pistons...there would be several variations of those.

Flat top? Compression height? Dish? Sit below deck or flush?
 
Reply
Old May 18, 2014 | 08:14 PM
  #15  
smoothcriminal69's Avatar
smoothcriminal69
Freshman User
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
The pin height changes in quite a few of them. Find out what your pistons measure at and we can help you figure out how much you can or can't take out of the block. I have had good luck with lunati , also had a really mild comp that lasted about 150k miles. How crazy you go depends on the rest of the build (converter and gearing) as well as the intended use...
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:27 AM.

story-0
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

Slideshow: Ranking the 5 things owners love about their Super Duty and 5 things they don't

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:36:49


VIEW MORE
story-8
Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

Slideshow: Ranking all 12 Ford truck engines available in 2026.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 13:32:20


VIEW MORE
story-9
The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

Slideshow: The best Ford F-150 deal for every trim level (XL through Raptor)

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-21 15:59:01


VIEW MORE