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The E7TE heads were used on all pickups and vans with the 5.0 and 5.8 from 1987 to 1997. If you're planning a boost motor with more than 500 HP and going to abuse it regularly, then you need to go with a stronger block, at a minimum, a 68-79 302 block. All the 68 -79 blocks are identical in iron content, including the 289 Hi-Po and the Mex blocks, plus the lesser known D8VE-A3A casting, these three have beefier main caps. Other than the main caps, the iron content (weight) is the same as the other 68-79 302 blocks. These blocks have 10 more pounds of iron in them(136 lbs) vs the 86-2001 roller blocks (126 lbs)
No abuse... just 4-6# with nothing over 4500 r's. You will notice this with my turbo sizing. T04B80... .60/.69. This project is for my 89 4x4 with a T18 . For which I pull my 26' fifth wheel with the golf cart in tow. That why i bought the parts truck, for the harness and the air meter. I still need to build the hot side, choose an air to air, and find a BOV and WG. Trying to get the 40P's off of Tony cause a: they are still stock b: he just bought some twisted c: no thermactor ports.
 
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Originally Posted by baddad457
The E7TE heads were used on all pickups and vans with the 5.0 and 5.8 from 1987 to 1997. If you're planning a boost motor with more than 500 HP and going to abuse it regularly, then you need to go with a stronger block, at a minimum, a 68-79 302 block. All the 68 -79 blocks are identical in iron content, including the 289 Hi-Po and the Mex blocks, plus the lesser known D8VE-A3A casting, these three have beefier main caps. Other than the main caps, the iron content (weight) is the same as the other 68-79 302 blocks. These blocks have 10 more pounds of iron in them(136 lbs) vs the 86-2001 roller blocks (126 lbs)
I have numerous blocks including a 69 351W and a 302 Mex. This is not going to be a nasty build. Just my puller that builds quick boost then shift. Pondering ideas for engine control. Up to and/or including tweecerRT if I can find an ECM with cheap def files.
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Old 04-12-2014, 02:54 PM
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I would never consider a 302 for what you're doing. 351W at a minimum for a starting point. 302's are NOT and never were intended to be truck engines. Trying to bandaid one to be a truck engine is asking for trouble. The 351 will yield the same mileage in a truck as the 302 anyway, so there's no point in using a 302.
 
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I would never consider a 302 for what you're doing. 351W at a minimum for a starting point. 302's are NOT and never were intended to be truck engines. Trying to bandaid one to be a truck engine is asking for troubl9e. The 351 will yield the same mileage in a truck as the 302 anyway, so there's no point in using a 302.
I agree...a 351W is not a truck engine either. ... a 300I6 is a TRUCK engine.

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A turbocharged diesel is a truck engine...
 
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A turbocharged diesel is a truck engine...
Thats what my ISX is for. And that 9 second notch is a STOCK Windsor short block with stock Explorer 40Ps... not mine but very proud to be acquainted with him.
 
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A turbocharged diesel is a truck engine...
X 2, the 300 six was sorely lacking in power. Why choose it when you could have had the same bore and stroke with two more cylinders ?
 
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X 2, the 300 six was sorely lacking in power. Why choose it when you could have had the same bore and stroke with two more cylinders ?
You are underestimating a 300. Torque is its answer. And count the main bearings sometime. Then raise that with no timing chain with a side order of easy to work on.
 
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Originally Posted by xkpsanit
You are underestimating a 300. Torque is its answer. And count the main bearings sometime. Then raise that with no timing chain with a side order of easy to work on.
The 300 has the bones to be a potent motor but that's it, there is zero aftermarket support for it so short of a turbo or supercharger there's not much you can do to get respectable power out of it.
The 351 on the other hand makes more peak torque stock and with a few cheap mods will make the kind of power the 300 simply can't compete with, and there is a massive list of aftermarket parts available to build as much power as you want. Plus it sounds cooler so I simply don't get the 300 love.
 
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Originally Posted by xkpsanit
You are underestimating a 300. Torque is its answer. And count the main bearings sometime. Then raise that with no timing chain with a side order of easy to work on.
Like I said, why settle for the 300 when you can have the same bore & stroke, along with two more cylinders and better heads ? And far more cam choices ? Main bearings mean nothing as far as generating power. Touting that is akin to the Chebby guys touting their four bolt mains. If you're not making the power, you don't need them.
 
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Why fool with a 351 when a 460 stomps mud holes in one all day long? Without forced induction or laughing gas that puny 351 can only dream about 500 pd/ft of daily-driver, 20"-of-vacuum-at-idle torque.
 
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Why fool with a 351 when a 460 stomps mud holes in one all day long? Without forced induction or laughing gas that puny 351 can only dream about 500 pd/ft of daily-driver, 20"-of-vacuum-at-idle torque.
Why settle for the 460 ? My Powerstroke 7.3 runs rings around them AND gets 20 mpg !!!
 
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Tech question:

My slugs are cast with a 5.0 designation. So I could assume this have metric rings?
 
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Tech question:

My slugs are cast with a 5.0 designation. So I could assume this have metric rings?
Yea, mor'n likely. I think Ford went to metric rings sometime in the late 80's along with the switch to low tension rings.
 


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