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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 03:22 PM
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Battery drain

I recently bought a 2002 expedition and about a week ago the battery light came on so I took it in and the alternator tested good and the battery needed to be replaced so I did. The light stayed on for about 60 miles after replacing the battery. A few days later it came back on and went off again and now it's on again. I tested between the negative battery post and battery wire and it has a draw of .24 amps so that's what 240 milliamp? Is that too much draw? What should I check next? Is there something that is a common battery draw? Also about a week after I bought the truck the doors started unlocking by itself over night. Are these related or separate? The battery light is driving me crazy any help would be great.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 05:04 PM
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It's most likely the alternator brushes are worn. If the battery isn't being kept fully charged because of the worn brushes, then the low battery can cause the unlocking issue.

If you're handy you can take the alternator off and replace the brushes set yourself, if not you'll have to replace the whole alternator. Oh and as far as it testing good, it will test good with worn brushes but will still fail in the vehicle due to a heavier electrical load.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 05:41 PM
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It's most likely the alternator brushes are worn. If the battery isn't being kept fully charged because of the worn brushes, then the low battery can cause the unlocking issue.

If you're handy you can take the alternator off and replace the brushes set yourself, if not you'll have to replace the whole alternator. Oh and as far as it testing good, it will test good with worn brushes but will still fail in the vehicle due to a heavier electrical load.
I had the alternator tested and it was fine, the problem is after it sits for a day the battery light comes on and after driving it to work it will be off by the time I get there so I think the alternator is charging the battery as I drive, like it should, but when it sits something is draining it. And my battery/alternator gauge is steady when I drive.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 08:48 PM
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Try to disconnect your battery while its running see if the alternator holds up under the load
 
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 08:44 AM
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That's a bad idea, it can cause voltage spikes and damage electronics. Also worth checking the rear wiper motor, if it is having trouble recognizing its home position it will keep drawing power and draining the battery. You can pull the fuse and see if it stops draining.
 
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Originally Posted by Insane451
I had the alternator tested and it was fine, the problem is after it sits for a day the battery light comes on and after driving it to work it will be off by the time I get there so I think the alternator is charging the battery as I drive, like it should, but when it sits something is draining it. And my battery/alternator gauge is steady when I drive.
The light comes on to let you know the alternator IS NOT charging the battery, it DOES NOT come on to tell you the battery is low. What you're seeing is as things heat up and expand, the brushes eventually get just enough contact pressure and start charging the battery after a while, so the light goes off.

Like I said earlier about the test, you're getting a false positive.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2014 | 08:55 AM
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The battery light will come on for more than just your alternator not working, it will come on when your battery is below a certain charge also which could be because of the alternator not charging or a parasitic drain on the battery or a number of other reasons. That being said I think I figured out the problem, I took out the under hood light when I tested my battery with my multimeter and didn't put the build back in and now the battery has stayed off. So I think the under good light either has a short or was staying on and draining the battery.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2014 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Insane451
The battery light will come on for more than just your alternator not working, it will come on when your battery is below a certain charge
Re-read alloro's post. (Don't want to mislead any future readers of this thread.) The battery light comes on any time the ignition switch is "on" and the alternator is generating less than half the battery voltage. That is the only way the light can come on. You can check this out by turning the ignition switch to the "run" position with out starting the engine. The battery light will illuminate to indicate that the alternator is not charging the battery. Start the engine and as soon as the alternator starts to spin it chould generate current and the light should turn off. If it doesn't turn off, the alternator is not generating current.

Be aware that the alternator can fail without turning the light on. If the alternator is only putting out, say 10 volts, the light will go off but the battery will eventually run down to the point it won't continue to run the engine or start it.

Now the "needle" on the battery gauge is another thing. It shows the battery's "voltage". It is not a very sensitive gauge and is hard to tell just how much voltage is in the system.
 
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