I went to autopartswarehouse
part # 7770-1 manufacturer b# 7770-1
fit note: vehicle with DIESEL engine without air conditioning
list price $597.08
their price $206.98

Should I order this one?

 

I jumped on the the first diesel core support I found when I did my bullnose conversion. It was a little rough but usable. I junked my perfect bricknose one. Looking back that was a stupid thing to do and I wish I had found a perfect gas bullnose support and grafted my deeper bottom hoop onto it.

If you or a buddy have any welding skills and your lower hoop is in good condition I'd seriously consider that route.

 

Thanks. I've asked around here in Lowell, but most of the shops have turned me away or if they say they'll do it, they've never done it on a Ford truck before. I don't want my truck to be their guinea pig.

 

If you can get them to take a picture of it for you and send it to you before you order to verify it is correct, then go for it.

 

What part of NO ONE AFTERMARKET MAKES ONE, didn't you get?

Weather the truck has A/C or NOT. Makes NO DIFFERENCE in the radiator support. Ford made ONE DIESEL radiator support, ONE.

here is a DIESEL radiator support.
29" tall and 6" wide lower hoop


Here ia s GASSER support
23" tall and a 4" wide lower hoop

 

diesel brad.
Your picture says "here is a diesel one" Does ford make only one size diesel?
What size engine and what yr. model does that go to.
I see another picture of one at Drag Racing 1/4 Mile times - DragTimes.com. They claim it replaces OE # F4TZ16138A or Partslink number FO1225121 sell for just under $200
Hopefully, the next Body Shop will accept the replacement job. It will be interesting to find out if there is a replacement that will fit. I'll let everyone know how I make out

 

oh yeah,look at that.so not only is the lower section deeper and wider but you can clearly see the cut out is smaller in the gas job too.look at the distance between the headlight plug/harness cutouts between the rad openings.you can really get a sense just how much larger the radiators are in the diesels when looking at those.
nothing a cutoff wheel or torch couldn't make light work of though i suppose.

Brad,you make it sound as if the aftermarket hasn't (or possibly never will) catch up and stamp them out......ever.
how are you so sure the aftermarket hasn't starting producing them yet? you continually check with aftermarket suppliers,or you've checked with them all and they all told you,they will never start making them? it really makes no sense someone doesn't start making them.have you been told why by any of them? perhaps they're not aware of the demand? after all,they all list diesel ones....perhaps they don't know they're different and need to start making them? there's got to be a story here.
after all, the diesel trucks are the longest lasting trucks.if any rad supports shouldn't be reproduced it should be diesels only and no gassers lol.

hmmm.so maybe it's just as easy to just remove our diesel supports and simply cut out any rust spots and simply fab in new metal where needed.just restore them rather than even mess with buying the gas support at all.might be even cheaper.plus then we don't end up supporting the aftermarket since they don't support us in this area.

 

Yea radiator is taller and wider not just wider, looks like have to cut the bottom radius out on both sides move them out to drop down just inside of the frame rails, then build a new cross section or add to one cut out between them.

Not a five minute job no, would have to juggle few things around to make a gasser work.

It is odd no one makes a replacement for a diesel they rust too, I thought it was just a LMC thing Brad ordered a diesel got gas its all they offer, not its a no one makes one issue.

 

One thing you guys gotta realize, brad doesn't halfa ss his builds. Just check out some of the build pics of his trucks. There are plenty throughout this site. I'm sure (never met him in person or even talked to him on the phone) he has ordered, returned, bought, and been disappointed with many radiator supports that were listed as diesel and were not. I have no doubt brad has ordered and returned most all of the brands of radiator supports you guys have listed.

You guys are either going to have to learn the hard way, or take his word for it.

I still say, call the company, get a warehouse guy to go remove it from the box and take a pic. They will do it, I've had them take pics of gas tanks and inner fenders and many other parts. Just call and ask and explain that the books are always wrong and you don't want the hassle of them having to accept a return on their dime, without a restocking fee.

 

Ford made ONE diesel rad support from 92-97. It was for the 7.3 IDI and the 7.3 powerstroke. It was for A/C and Non A/C trucks. Just call Ford and ask for a part number for all 4 senerios. They will all be the SAME part number

The aftermarket is LIENG to you. They do NOT reproduce a Diesel support. Just a gasser one that will NOT work.

I have had Multiple aftermarket "diesel" supports in my hand. They are NOT DIESEL. Just get out a tape measure. It is a 30 second job

 

I'm hoping that some after market supplier exists that you are unaware of. I will leave it up to the Body Shop Boss to make that decision. It just seems that if a parts company offers a rad support to identically match Ford OE part number F4TZ16138A which is the correct part number that Ford no longer manufactures and that part is NOT what it is described as, that's false advertising which will have a negative effect on that company resulting in possible criminal charges brought against them for fraud.
Like someone else commented,SHAME on Ford for offering a diesel engine for thousands more than a gasoline engine which has the potential of 3-400,000 mi. of service and NOT continue to make parts that will need replacement after 10,15, or 17 yrs. What a bunch of a##holes!

 

Guys.... Do some legwork yourself. Listen to what we are saying please.
CALL AROUND, GET PICTURES, or risk it and buy one and see if it's correct.
Ok, I understand that ONE guy is saying that they don't make a diesel radiator support, when 5 company's list one.... Who are you going to trust?

 

thats going to have to change though.we need to call the manufactures and inform them we need larger diesel core supports built.the more of us asking,the better.there's only going to be more and more of us needing them.
they may really think they're all the same and the reason they only make the smaller ones.until the demand is shown there is a need,i really doubt things will change.there wont be enough used southern/western ones to go around much longer.

 

I checked with the place I got my aftermarket fenders from in Canada and they have 2 supports listed WITH pictures. Sorry about them being upside down but that's the way they are on the site.
Their gas support

Their diesel support


Comparing to the REAL ones Brad posted above this "diesel" one still looks wrong. It doesn't go low enough but you can see it is wider then the gasser above.

 

yeah pics are often very generic though and often are not a pic of the actual part.
for 7th and 8th gen f-series trucks,the 6.9/7.3l diesels used a shorter non a/c radiator for trucks that didn't come with a/c.i suspect this is where the a/c and non a/c core support options comes from.
Brad feels pretty confident all the idi and psd diesel trucks,came with the same size (tall) radiators.despite if the trucks came equipped with a/c or not.iv never heard of anyone claiming their 9th gen idi truck used the shorter rad either on the forums.
perhaps,just perhaps,one of those aftermarket suppliers are stamping out those non a/c pre-9th gen diesel supports.that might explain what you just found there Vadis......if the pics are of actual part.