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What does it mean?
Ok, you were all helpful when I posted that I was just starting to look at 250 trucks. Now that I am looking I find that there are a few things I don't understand regarding some of the options.
First, what 10000# gvwr package? How is that different than the gvwr without this option.
I am looking at 2 trucks. One has 18" wheels the other 20s. Does this have any impact other than looks and price?
Thanks in advance.
I have to say, these trucks drive unbelievably. It is amazing how well mannered a truck with this capability can be. No wonder you guys love these trucks.
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First, what 10000# gvwr package? How is that different than the gvwr without this option.
I am looking at 2 trucks. One has 18" wheels the other 20s. Does this have any impact other than looks and price?
Thanks in advance.
I have to say, these trucks drive unbelievably. It is amazing how well mannered a truck with this capability can be. No wonder you guys love these trucks.
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The 10k package is the maximum GVWR that you can get in a F250. Most F250's have a lower GVWR. The 10k package is the lowest you can get in a F350. Most probably 90% of the F350's have a GVWR higher than 10k. F350's GVWR can range from 10k-11,500 for SRW's and up to 14k for duallys.
As far as wheels the 20 inch tires are sightly taller than the 18's. The 20 inch tires are a lot more expensive.
As far as wheels the 20 inch tires are sightly taller than the 18's. The 20 inch tires are a lot more expensive.
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Thanks for the reply. I figured it was an upgrade of sorts but I wanted to make sure.
I have a couple of other questions for you or anyone else who reads this.
How many miles does Ford recommend before towing. (My sales guy had his own recommendation but not an exact number from Ford.)
Also, with my current 1/2 ton truck towing my 7200 lb trailer (it will probably be a few hundred pounds heavier with the 250 since I won't feel the need to be the weight police when my wife is loading the trailer) I use a Reese Dual Cam HD weight distributing hitch which is also anti-sway. With a tongue weight of 12% or so will I still need a WD hitch on the 250? Will I need anti-sway or will the advanced capability of the truck's anti-sway be all I need for a travel trailer of this size?
Again, thanks for any help. These forum really compliment ownership of a vehicle.
Band Guy
I have a couple of other questions for you or anyone else who reads this.
How many miles does Ford recommend before towing. (My sales guy had his own recommendation but not an exact number from Ford.)
Also, with my current 1/2 ton truck towing my 7200 lb trailer (it will probably be a few hundred pounds heavier with the 250 since I won't feel the need to be the weight police when my wife is loading the trailer) I use a Reese Dual Cam HD weight distributing hitch which is also anti-sway. With a tongue weight of 12% or so will I still need a WD hitch on the 250? Will I need anti-sway or will the advanced capability of the truck's anti-sway be all I need for a travel trailer of this size?
Again, thanks for any help. These forum really compliment ownership of a vehicle.
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The manual says 1000 miles before towing.
If you have no load in the back of the truck, you could try to tow it without the WD hitch and see how it feels. Then put the WD on and feel the difference. Don't forget the WD will have to be adjusted for the height difference between a F150 and a F250. I have a dually and still use my Reese WD hitch, it just makes towing smoother.
If you have no load in the back of the truck, you could try to tow it without the WD hitch and see how it feels. Then put the WD on and feel the difference. Don't forget the WD will have to be adjusted for the height difference between a F150 and a F250. I have a dually and still use my Reese WD hitch, it just makes towing smoother.
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The 250's are just plan 'soft' in the rear.... but if you are talking 750 lb tongue weight you shouldn't have an issue.
I was towing much more than you when I had the 250, but the drop was too much for me so I opted for airbags... then opted for a 350 with 11.5k gvwr...
a caveat though, airbags did affect my unloaded ride - imho it made it 'react' more even when bags were at their lowest... I would look into more passive options if you feel you need more than stock... like timbrens, or rancho air shocks, or RAS...
The 'standard' gvwr is like 9900 if I recall mainly because MANY states charge - I mean CHARGE - for 10k or over...
many here guess that the real gvwr is higher, but just rated/certified lower for taxing purposes....
I was towing much more than you when I had the 250, but the drop was too much for me so I opted for airbags... then opted for a 350 with 11.5k gvwr...
a caveat though, airbags did affect my unloaded ride - imho it made it 'react' more even when bags were at their lowest... I would look into more passive options if you feel you need more than stock... like timbrens, or rancho air shocks, or RAS...
The 'standard' gvwr is like 9900 if I recall mainly because MANY states charge - I mean CHARGE - for 10k or over...
many here guess that the real gvwr is higher, but just rated/certified lower for taxing purposes....
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for an f-250, for 250 bucks on amazon and you can get a set of overleaf springs that kick in as you add weight. f-350's come with overleaf springs.
if your going to be doing hard duty towing...you should be looking at 17 inch rims. 20" inch rims will cut down your torque at the wheels. I have 18 inch alloy rims but swap them out for 17th when I pull my car hauler enclosed trailer.
if your going to be doing hard duty towing...you should be looking at 17 inch rims. 20" inch rims will cut down your torque at the wheels. I have 18 inch alloy rims but swap them out for 17th when I pull my car hauler enclosed trailer.
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Can you explain this?? I've heard stuff about changing tires and wheels but never that a different size wheel (assuming same overall tire height) would change torque output at the pavement.
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You may not need to, but since you already have the Reese dual cam I would use it, especially if you load up the bed. I have a lighter trailer than you, and sometimes I carry two motorcycles in the bed plus other gear. I use a weight distributing hitch with sway control and it all works great.
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re changing torque with wheel size --- it depends if the overall diameter of the wheel/tire is a lot different it may... but not that much...
Now, if you went to 22's or something like that
my 350 has 20's and it has enough torque !
re sway - You could even go overkill and get the propride 3P hitch I have stashed in the garage since we sold the TT and went to a 5er.
Now, if you went to 22's or something like that
my 350 has 20's and it has enough torque !re sway - You could even go overkill and get the propride 3P hitch I have stashed in the garage since we sold the TT and went to a 5er.
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F-350s with 17" wheels from the factory have a de-rated RGAWR because of the reduced load index of 17" tires run as singles compared to the load indices of E-rated tires for 18" and 20" rims. It's significantly better to have tires of a sufficient load index for the weight you're putting on them than it is to have a tire that is not even 5% smaller.
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re changing torque with wheel size --- it depends if the overall diameter of the wheel/tire is a lot different it may... but not that much...
Now, if you went to 22's or something like that my 350 has 20's and it has enough torque !
re sway - You could even go overkill and get the propride 3P hitch I have stashed in the garage since we sold the TT and went to a 5er.
Now, if you went to 22's or something like that
my 350 has 20's and it has enough torque !re sway - You could even go overkill and get the propride 3P hitch I have stashed in the garage since we sold the TT and went to a 5er.
I personally have a 20" wheel and my tires i did upsize also and are 11.9" wide and 35.47" overall diameter.
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I have read this and other forum posting multiple times and still confused by the GVWR option.
We are upgrading from our F150 as we just purchased a new 5th Wheel. The 5th Wheel has a GVWR of 15,500 lbs, a dry weight of 11,950 and hitch weight of 2,200.
If the F350 we are looking at has the 11500 GVWR on the sticker does that disqualify it from hauling this trailer? We do not load anything else in the truck except two people.
Appreciate your help.
We are upgrading from our F150 as we just purchased a new 5th Wheel. The 5th Wheel has a GVWR of 15,500 lbs, a dry weight of 11,950 and hitch weight of 2,200.
If the F350 we are looking at has the 11500 GVWR on the sticker does that disqualify it from hauling this trailer? We do not load anything else in the truck except two people.
Appreciate your help.
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I will definitely set up my Reese hitch to see how things work with it. I am currently looking at the on lot stock of a couple of dealers near me. I found a Lariat with a few items I don't really want and an XLT with leather but no heat. I'm fine with cloth or leather but here in NJ I don't want leather without heat.
This will be the biggest chunck of change I will have ever spent on a motor vehicle but I am excited.
Bandguy
This will be the biggest chunck of change I will have ever spent on a motor vehicle but I am excited.
Bandguy