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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 01:15 PM
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Well, I just ordered the expensive ring gear (2GA-6384-A) which should fit. If this doesn't work out, I'll contact jmadsen for his assistance. Thanks everyone. I learned quite a bit from this discussion.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 10:03 AM
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Well, I just ordered the expensive ring gear (2GA-6384-A) which should fit. If this doesn't work out, I'll contact jmadsen for his assistance. Thanks everyone. I learned quite a bit from this discussion.
Well, I just received the 2GA-6384 ring gear and am happy to report that it is the correct ring gear that I need. So even though many people believe that the 226 only used a 114 tooth ring gear, some 226's sported the 112 tooth gear / flywheel. Why? Who knows . . . probably only the Ford engineers who designed them. I must admit though that the 114 tooth gear was much more popular and is still available at a number of outlets. The 112 tooth? No so much as I got the last one from All Ford Parts and as far as I know only Hagen Auto still claims to have one. Now, if you install a V8 flywheel on the 226, the 112 tooth gear for the V8 is also still readily available. Thanks again everyone for the help!!
 
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 10:11 AM
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Have you put the new ring gear on yet? I've never done one but it looks like an interesting process.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 10:28 AM
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Have you put the new ring gear on yet? I've never done one but it looks like an interesting process.
No, but I did remove the old one (without breaking it) so I could more accurately measure it. Used my oxy-acetylene cutting torch to heat it up and remove it. Took about 5 minutes of warming and a brass punch to knock it off since the flywheel is such a large heat sink. Installing I should think is easier since you can heat the ring gear separately and then drop it onto a cool flywheel. I will install the gear probably this weekend and then send the flywheel out for resurfacing.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Cougar54
No, but I did remove the old one (without breaking it) so I could more accurately measure it. Used my oxy-acetylene cutting torch to heat it up and remove it. Took about 5 minutes of warming and a brass punch to knock it off since the flywheel is such a large heat sink. Installing I should think is easier since you can heat the ring gear separately and then drop it onto a cool flywheel. I will install the gear probably this weekend and then send the flywheel out for resurfacing.
It also doesn't hurt to put the flywheel in the freezer for a while as well. I have done this task a couple of times. It helps to have the flywheel sitting on a nice flat surface. If all of the stars and planets are aligned properly, the ring should just drop right into place - assuming you have heated the ring gear up sufficiently!
 
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 11:40 AM
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I'm guessing in MI all you need to do to get the flywheel cold is throw it in a snow bank!
 
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by old_dan
It also doesn't hurt to put the flywheel in the freezer for a while as well. I have done this task a couple of times. It helps to have the flywheel sitting on a nice flat surface. If all of the stars and planets are aligned properly, the ring should just drop right into place - assuming you have heated the ring gear up sufficiently!
Exactly how I do it. I put the ring gear in the oven on low heat......it drops right on. Then walk away and let it cool slowly.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 02:28 PM
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I'm guessing in MI all you need to do to get the flywheel cold is throw it in a snow bank!
I hope I missed my chance at throwing it into a snow bank. It is a whooping 41 degrees here today and the snow is starting to melt down. I have to temper my enthusiasm though because here in Michigan the weather is always changing. The saying goes "If you don't like the weather, wait a day, it will change".
 
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Cougar54
I hope I missed my chance at throwing it into a snow bank. It is a whooping 41 degrees here today and the snow is starting to melt down. I have to temper my enthusiasm though because here in Michigan the weather is always changing. The saying goes "If you don't like the weather, wait a day, it will change".
So....for today, the freezer is actually colder than it is outside!

My wife always loves it when I bring parts into the kitchen!
 
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 07:13 PM
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So....for today, the freezer is actually colder than it is outside!

My wife always loves it when I bring parts into the kitchen!
I can imagine . . . I tried to put a car part in my wife's oven once and caught an earful. Never again while she is home!
 
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 08:21 PM
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Glad you got the correct gear. As sloppy as those starter gears mesh with the flywheel gear, would a two tooth difference actually make a difference? I kinda doubt it. Guess it would be determined by the thickness of the teeth.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 09:39 PM
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Glad you got the correct gear. As sloppy as those starter gears mesh with the flywheel gear, would a two tooth difference actually make a difference? I kinda doubt it. Guess it would be determined by the thickness of the teeth.
I'm not sure but from what I know, Ford used a 10 tooth starter drive gear for the 112 tooth ring gear and a 9 tooth starter drive gear for the 114 tooth ring gear. This is actually what caused me to look into the different ring gears as I noticed that Mac's sell a starter drive for the V8 flatheads with the same part number as the one they sell for the 226. I assume it is a 10 tooth and I thought since the V8 never used a 114 tooth ring gear they must be for a 112 tooth ring gear. I plan on replacing my "bendix" starter drive with one of the more modern barrel type drives and I believe they are all 10 tooth units for the flathead. I don't think they would mesh well with a 114 tooth gear. But, I could be mistaken . . .
 
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Old Mar 23, 2014 | 01:41 PM
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You won't believe this but the darn 2GA-6384 ring gear didn't fit! The ID was too large. The original was 13.040" while the "2GA" I received was 13.090". Fifty thousands too big which allowed it to drop over the flywheel without heating. Not good!! Now I suppose the ring gear could not actually be a "2GA" as it has no part number or it could be I need a different ring gear. If anyone has a good ring gear with these dimensions please let me know.

13.040" Inside Diameter
14.190" Outside Diameter
.575" Inside Diameter to Top Of Tooth
.370" Thickness

I think I may be looking at purchasing a used flywheel at this point!
 
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