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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 01:22 PM
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Engine Temp Too Low?

So for sometime my engine temp will barely reach the 'N' in Normal. I know that it's just an idiot gauge, but shouldn't it still be up around the 'RM' range? I just changed the coolant and thermostat, but that didn't make any difference. It's a '97 and I just grabbed a parts store t-stat, so 195°F. I'm wondering if I just need a new temp sender. Should I be concerned about this? Any thoughts?

Been thinking about getting a 203°F, but I don't see that making a huge difference on the gauge; especially since 195°F is suppose to be the 'Normal'.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 01:59 PM
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Mine sits on the n. Goes up to the o if I'm really working it. I have a 195 but it seems a fair number on here run 203's on here. I don't know if that's a year round thing or just for summer. The only real way you'll find out what it's really doing is with a proper gauge
 
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 02:28 PM
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Mine sits on the n. Goes up to the o if I'm really working it. I have a 195 but it seems a fair number on here run 203's on here. I don't know if that's a year round thing or just for summer. The only real way you'll find out what it's really doing is with a proper gauge
I have the AeroForce Interceptor and it is a really helpful tool if you want to watch fuel pressure,coolant temp,oil temp,boost and many other items.It will display and clear codes.Once a year there is a group buy on here as well.Talk to Jim at Rosewood Diesel.


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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 04:14 PM
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Nothing wrong with our temp gauges, they are good quality and just don't have numbers on them. My own personal experience has shown the 195 stats start opening at 170 degrees. The cooling system is so efficient on these engines it is hard to get above that 170 degree point unless working the engine. Four or five years ago I put in the 203 stat. It starts opening at 190 degrees and makes a world of difference in heat output and overall engine operation. I'm now running between the "R" and 'M' in NORMAL where before I was always down around the "N" to 'O'.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 05:25 PM
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I had problems with mine until I went to Ford and bought the correct t-stat for it. The one from Ford has the rubber seal molded onto it. The parts store one did not.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 11:04 PM
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Nothing wrong with our temp gauges, they are good quality and just don't have numbers on them. My own personal experience has shown the 195 stats start opening at 170 degrees. The cooling system is so efficient on these engines it is hard to get above that 170 degree point unless working the engine. Four or five years ago I put in the 203 stat. It starts opening at 190 degrees and makes a world of difference in heat output and overall engine operation. I'm now running between the "R" and 'M' in NORMAL where before I was always down around the "N" to 'O'.
My sentiments exactly. I've been running without my engine fan for quite awhile now. So far, I haven't gotten above the "A" in NORMAL and am generally around the "M" most of the time. It'll get between "A" and "L" when I'm towing my 24' travel trailer. For me, the 203*F thermostat was a good upgrade. I did have to replace my water pump earlier this year, so I'm sure that has something to do with the better temperature control, too.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 02:51 AM
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Knock on wood here, but I have had my truck since 2006 and haven't really serviced the cooling system in that time. I have used the test strips and found the coolant to be in range. I did install a coolant filter last year though, I'll cut it open some time this year, I agree the system is very efficient, I have no idea what temp the thermostat I am running is, it really doesn't matter to me because it works good for me, warms up just fine. Mine runs between N and O on the NORMAL gauge and just a little higher when towing just doesn't matter I am mostly concerned with the egt gauge. I also do not like the "NORMAL" gauge though, it's not very descriptive of how the letters N-O-R-M-A-L relate to temperature? I mean if the needle is anywhere in the normal range, is that considered normal
 
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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 05:21 AM
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My sentiments exactly. I've been running without my engine fan for quite awhile now. So far, I haven't gotten above the "A" in NORMAL and am generally around the "M" most of the time. It'll get between "A" and "L" when I'm towing my 24' travel trailer. For me, the 203*F thermostat was a good upgrade. I did have to replace my water pump earlier this year, so I'm sure that has something to do with the better temperature control, too.
I'd be a little careful Craig. I agree these gauges are fairly accurate. Between the A and L is getting awful hot though. Put a temp gauge with numbers on and you will see.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by riverrat41
I have the AeroForce Interceptor and it is a really helpful tool if you want to watch fuel pressure,coolant temp,oil temp,boost and many other items.It will display and clear codes.Once a year there is a group buy on here as well.Talk to Jim at Rosewood Diesel.


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On my 96, the aeroforce will not read coolant temps. I have not tried it on my 97 yet.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 04:07 PM
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I thought the pcm only read oil temp.not coolant?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 07:22 PM
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I thought the pcm only read oil temp.not coolant?
It should read coolant too cuz if it gets too hot it can throw it into limp mode or shut it off, at least that's how the Suzuki and Yamaha products I work on are, most of them anyways
 
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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 07:55 PM
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It does not see coolant temp. It will show you a coolant temp but it a very good guess off of the oil temp.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 08:52 PM
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Thanks mike.i was 99.99%sure but hate to stick my neck out.
 
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I had it displayed on my SG and on first cold start it would show a high number but after it got to temp it would show the temp to be close to the actual temp
 
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Your right Mike but mine would then start to vary so much it wasn't accurate.
 
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