What is up with ford and this 1.6 litter made in England motor and it's cracking leaking parts causing fires? we just got recall notice number 5 which means another day lost to it having to go into the dealer for more work.

So far this motor has had a fuel line replaced, a cylinder head freeze plug replaced, sat at the dealer in dec 2012 for 23 days when ford took it [and 28 more at our dealer alone] off the road by ford and into pos enterprise rentals . weeks later after the 1st re flash caused all sorts of crazy's to go on with the dash and lights another day down, now another recall to install shielding on the motor to deflect any oil or antifreeze that may leak onto the hottest engine parts and again cause a fire. 26 days down now with another when they do finally get the parts made and to the dealers.

What is next ford how many more recalls for this motor? or how about simply wising up and stop making the motor in England and switch it here to the usa or Germany where we know how to build motors that don't mark their parking spots .

We have owned new fords since 1963 totaling about 30 so far, So with our dealers help ford gave us a free bumper to bumper extended warranty after the 23 day sit , but this round sure makes me think hard about trying to lemon law it even when out of nj's time and miles by a few months.

 

I think that the Lemon Law only applies to within the first year and that's it.

It's for problem(s) you've had and they couldn't fix in three tries.

 

Sounds like your best bet is that it will leak some type of accelerant onto the exhaust and burn to the ground.

I am just kidding.

 

At some point, it may be time to jack up driver, remove car from underneath, insert new car from different manufacturer, and lower driver back down.

Unfortunately, the depreciation would be all yours.

We have already decided that if something happens to our 2010 Escape, like theft or a major accident, and we bought a NEW replacement small SUV, it would be the one made by T or the one made by S, (which would shock anyone who knows me!).

 

before retiring I was a 45 year vet dealer mechanic having worked on that brand and can say point blank you sure wouldn't want one or down the line wish you hadn't . we switched brands to them in 2011 went back to ford for 2013.the rav 4 we had was a 2011 limited model and after 20k miles of head aches we went back to ford. taking a 15k loose in value from what we paid. my son's 2011 Tacoma isn't any better, it too lives at the dealer with driveline shudder issues from items as simple as low from the factory auto trans fluid levels that tore up the convertor, 2 drive shafts, under tsb's, 2 sets of leaf springs for bottoming out with items weighing as heavy as our loved 302 ford. now for the last 9 days it has been waiting on parts for the seat belt recall that have been on back order. a 35k truck with 24k on it clock is now worth 18 as a trade in.

how can anyone feel safe knowing that there have been so many recalls for fire issues that the car is rated among the worst top 5 by consumer reports

 

We bought my wife's Escape with the 2.0 liter, when we went to the dealer, he said we couldn't take one with the 1.6 at the time, I was fine with that anyways because I like a little bit of extra horsepower, at this point I am glad that I didn't get a chance to drive it, it might have had enough power to suit the wife's needs, no issues so far, not been back in the 15 months that we have had it. good luck to the OP!

 

I worked with a guy that bought a Toyota Tacoma for there quality. I bought a Ranger his was in the shop pretty much monthly. Mine no issues They where both 1998.All manufactors have issues it just sucks you pay so much for cars today and then have them. I had 1 Ford with issues my 93 Bronco it never made my walk and I had it for 7 years more good times then bad with it.

 

waiting on ford now, since it was down for 21 days in one hit then followed up by 2 more under jersey law it's 2 years,3 attempts or more then 20 days down so it can go lemon law,' mean time it's leaking antifreeze from the head. another week to make repair's under the lasts recall
should have spent the grand extra for the 2.0.

 

It be nice if Ford would trade you up to the 2.0 for the diferents in cost between yours and another with the 2.0

 

Just read the NJ Lemon Law here: http://www.state.nj.us/lps/ca/ocp/lembroc.pdf
and you have a few things to do on your end and they still get one final try to repair the problem after they receive your certified letter.

 

well it is back for more work since ford is dragging their feet on the lemon law suite. lawyer is working on it 11 weeks so far, this link is to the us government web site http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ better known as safecar.gov, where you can look up safety information on any brand . this latest tsb on the fire recall issue is 78 pages long and for sure a Rube Goldberg repair that still leaves the bad cylinder heads on the car,
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...3V584-9000.pdf dated march 24 2014
as a former dealer mechanic I can say not only the owners of devalued cars from this mess, the techs are the ones who are going to be getting hurt in their pockets also, it pays them a max of 6.1 hours to do the job, plus a 2.0 hour bonus to do the first few as a learning curve,
sorry ford but not right, fix them properly or buy all 12.000 plus back shred them so the values can return

 

it went back early march for the strong smell of leaking antifreeze in the cab and out side when hot, I had to fill the bottle weekly, couldn't find any leaks externally. they found a loose hose fitting at the turbo and multiple codes in the control modules . the shop foreman spoke with me himself, he asked if the battery had been disconnected, sorry never that I know of, it has only been serviced here, then he said some of the codes were for the body? some for the abs and trans,

I worked for both VW and Toyota, Toyota back in the mid 70's had cylinder head issues with cracking heads on the then 1.2 and 1.6 pushrod 4's and cracking heads that also burned the valve seats, on the 8 r and 18rc motors at least they replaced the heads. and that was for sure a lot more then the affected ford 1.6 ecoboost in numbers.

 

this new recall took the tech 12 hours to do,plus he found the water pump leaking and the fuel line ford was supposed to have changed the the factory not done.
4 days more down, no more smell of leaking antifreeze but now of leaking oil onto something hot.
the fix it self is a 100% rube Goldberg. now anyone can see the gasses passing though the hoses in to the new degasser bottle along with oil building up on the bottles top inside it. the new sensor to catch gasses in the coolant is right behind the rs headlamp out in front of the radiator support where it came be taken out in even a minor accident .new programing messes up the dash programing .
any one ever see their mpg read out read 99.9 mpg's?

 

If you were able to read instantaneous MPG like with a ScanGauge-II does, you'd see that when the engine is in mist of fuel cutoff. I see that all the time coasting from over about 40MPH.

 

i just finished this recall today. What a pain it is to do in such a small space!!! It took me a total of 15 hours to do due to being pulled off to do other jobs.