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Tuned
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But I have a 97 e350 with the 460. It's a 460, I'm certain it's a 460, and it's titled as a 1997. I don't know the full history of Ford and when they stopped making the FE engines, I'll admit that, but I knows what I gots, and I gots a 97 with a 460. Bummer about the tuners, but I'll live.
Fleet Owner
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From: Reynoldsburg, Ohio
Warren you seem to have an oddball E350 since its titled as a '97 but has the 460. Anything is possible when it comes to titles vs actual build dates. A bit off-topic but my (supposed) '84 Pontiac Parisenne is legally '84 but sourcing parts requires me to say its an '83. PO said it was an '84, manufacturer says its an '84 but parts need to be from an '83---go figure.
Do you happen to have any photos of that motor stuffed into your E350? That might be more than interesting to a few of us here.
Do you happen to have any photos of that motor stuffed into your E350? That might be more than interesting to a few of us here.
Tuned
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Warren you seem to have an oddball E350 since its titled as a '97 but has the 460. Anything is possible when it comes to titles vs actual build dates. A bit off-topic but my (supposed) '84 Pontiac Parisenne is legally '84 but sourcing parts requires me to say its an '83. PO said it was an '84, manufacturer says its an '84 but parts need to be from an '83---go figure.
Do you happen to have any photos of that motor stuffed into your E350? That might be more than interesting to a few of us here.
Do you happen to have any photos of that motor stuffed into your E350? That might be more than interesting to a few of us here.
Tuned
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Well, when I first got it I changed the oil, and did so assuming it was a 7.5. I'd be concerned if I'm maintaining some other engine as if it was a 7.5. Also up the thread I was told I can't actually have a 97 with a 7.5l, and I already knew I do. I am the first one to admit when I'm mistaken, but I get irked when told I'm wrong from 1,000 miles when I know I'm right and can see it with my own eyes.
Fleet Owner
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From: Reynoldsburg, Ohio
I'm with ya----sometimes what is seems either mistaken or nearly impossible.
We've all dealt with the faraway guys knowing what we've got sitting in our driveways. Most mean well, not everyone is precise, exact or overly cautious when posting a forum reply---its the nature of a forum.
Lots of good guys here----just like family we have to love 'em all, some a bit more equally though!
We've all dealt with the faraway guys knowing what we've got sitting in our driveways. Most mean well, not everyone is precise, exact or overly cautious when posting a forum reply---its the nature of a forum.
Lots of good guys here----just like family we have to love 'em all, some a bit more equally though!
Tuned
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I'm with ya----sometimes what is seems either mistaken or nearly impossible.
We've all dealt with the faraway guys knowing what we've got sitting in our driveways. Most mean well, not everyone is precise, exact or overly cautious when posting a forum reply---its the nature of a forum.
Lots of good guys here----just like family we have to love 'em all, some a bit more equally though!
We've all dealt with the faraway guys knowing what we've got sitting in our driveways. Most mean well, not everyone is precise, exact or overly cautious when posting a forum reply---its the nature of a forum.
Lots of good guys here----just like family we have to love 'em all, some a bit more equally though!
Now, with this being the case, why do I have the 460? Was it a special order, an early 97 build, a mistake, any clue? How would I find out?
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Fleet Owner
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From: Reynoldsburg, Ohio
Just for fun I'd check the actual build date, look on the driver's side door jamb.
My WAG would be it was an early production, probably really a '96 but completed after the annual plant shut down for retooling that happens in July or August---historically anyway.
Determining why your E350 is outfitted I'm maybe PM Mark Kovolsky since he worked for Ford as a transmission engineer, seems to have good knowledge of Ford's production etc.
My WAG would be it was an early production, probably really a '96 but completed after the annual plant shut down for retooling that happens in July or August---historically anyway.
Determining why your E350 is outfitted I'm maybe PM Mark Kovolsky since he worked for Ford as a transmission engineer, seems to have good knowledge of Ford's production etc.
Tuned
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Just for fun I'd check the actual build date, look on the driver's side door jamb.
My WAG would be it was an early production, probably really a '96 but completed after the annual plant shut down for retooling that happens in July or August---historically anyway.
Determining why your E350 is outfitted I'm maybe PM Mark Kovolsky since he worked for Ford as a transmission engineer, seems to have good knowledge of Ford's production etc.
My WAG would be it was an early production, probably really a '96 but completed after the annual plant shut down for retooling that happens in July or August---historically anyway.
Determining why your E350 is outfitted I'm maybe PM Mark Kovolsky since he worked for Ford as a transmission engineer, seems to have good knowledge of Ford's production etc.
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From: Altamont, KS
Your van looks like it is a conversion. What likely happened is that it is actually a 96 model that was sent to a conversion place and was actually titled and sold as a 97. This happens with RVs and Cab Chassis type vehicles alot.
The title is issued based on the completed vehicle.
The title is issued based on the completed vehicle.
Tuned
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Your van looks like it is a conversion. What likely happened is that it is actually a 96 model that was sent to a conversion place and was actually titled and sold as a 97. This happens with RVs and Cab Chassis type vehicles alot.
The title is issued based on the completed vehicle.
The title is issued based on the completed vehicle.
Senior User
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From: Altamont, KS
The build date on the door is what it is from Ford. The conversion companies will buy a whole train load at a time. I think you have a van from 96 that was completed by the conversion company in 97.
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From: Thornhill , Ontario
All 460's have the unique 2 inch Heaterhose connecting the Waterpump to the Intake since they have a wet Intake like the 302/351W and not the Dry Intake like the 351m/400....That is the simple way to check it .......