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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 10:07 PM
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Driveshaft Differences

Are there any differences between driveshafts from a 92-96 F150 and a 92-97 F250/350?

I'm trying finish up a 5spd swap and I need to know what all I need to look at as of drive shafts.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 10:31 PM
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Yes, the F150, F250 and F350 all had different shafts

We need to know what year truck,what t-case, what wheel base and what front axle
 
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 11:11 PM
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1997 F250 - 155" WB - D50 - 4407 T/C as far as I know, but I'll check tomorrow.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 01:26 AM
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by williameub
1997 F250 - 155" WB - D50 - 4407 T/C as far as I know, but I'll check tomorrow.
Ok, that means you need a rear driveshaft from a 96 or 97 Supecab long bed 5 speed 4wd truck

The front can be from ANY F250 from 87-97 with a D50 and 5 speed( I have one of those from my 97, PM if interested)
 
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
Ok, that means you need a rear driveshaft from a 96 or 97 Supecab long bed 5 speed 4wd truck

The front can be from ANY F250 from 87-97 with a D50 and 5 speed( I have one of those from my 97, PM if interested)
Yep. The 96/97s have approximately 1" longer rear shafts than trucks w 1356 t case. The specific donor truck you need isn't the easiest to come by. It would probably much easier to have your auto shaft shortened and balanced. Around here that's ~$175.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 10:06 PM
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Yep. The 96/97s have approximately 1" longer rear shafts than trucks w 1356 t case.
Okay, I gotta ask...... Why?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 10:21 PM
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Okay, I gotta ask...... Why?
I don't have that answer Leo. Best guess: BW1356 has slip yoke rear output. When they added the BW4407 and used a bolt on flange there was less forgiveness for fit and they had to add ~1" for a more precise fit. Only a guess though.
 
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Originally Posted by redman84
Yep. The 96/97s have approximately 1" longer rear shafts than trucks w 1356 t case. The specific donor truck you need isn't the easiest to come by. It would probably much easier to have your auto shaft shortened and balanced. Around here that's ~$175.
X2^ I searched for the exact driveshaft for about a year before my situation changed and I bought a CC - to which I performed the ZF swap. an interesting point about these driveshafts is that the front section of the rear driveshaft (from carrier to t-case) is actually longer on a SCLB than on a CCLB. I guess its just where it was convenient to put the carrier bearing for them. I did find one shaft section that I thought might work in a C&C junk truck though, but it turned out to be way too rusty when I went to take it off. I don't remember the cab/bed config of that truck or WB, though, sorry. if you have a yard nearby with lots of old trucks, you might just go crawl under a bunch armed with measurements of the shaft section you need. ...of course, there's no guaranteed the splines would have matched up on that shaft I was looking at, but it was worth a shot to me. Driveshaft work by my was going to be $400+ for a lengthen/balance job. same quote from several different places. I guess that sort of thing varies by region...

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I don't have that answer Leo. Best guess: BW1356 has slip yoke rear output. When they added the BW4407 and used a bolt on flange there was less forgiveness for fit and they had to add ~1" for a more precise fit. Only a guess though.
I think the answer is just that the slip-yoke on the 1356 was sort of a short shaft in itself, whereas the flange setup on the 4407 is just a plate welded to the output shaft of the t-case, so its a shorter setup overall. nothing earthshattering - just the necessary result of the design change.
 
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