pulling power??
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pulling power??
How well would the 7.3 do with 16,000 to 19,000 lbs of weight behind it?
Reason I ask, been looking for a crew cab dually with the 7.3. If I go this route it would be pulling our 41ft 5th wheel camper. It's pushing 16,000 lbs without water and both 40 lb propane tanks fillled. And just eough food and clothes for a few days camping. But it does have the Big generator in front and washer dryer. Fireplace, 4 door fridge. its loaded down even 3 Big screen TV's.
Reason I ask, been looking for a crew cab dually with the 7.3. If I go this route it would be pulling our 41ft 5th wheel camper. It's pushing 16,000 lbs without water and both 40 lb propane tanks fillled. And just eough food and clothes for a few days camping. But it does have the Big generator in front and washer dryer. Fireplace, 4 door fridge. its loaded down even 3 Big screen TV's.
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How well would the 7.3 do with 16,000 to 19,000 lbs of weight behind it?
Reason I ask, been looking for a crew cab dually with the 7.3. If I go this route it would be pulling our 41ft 5th wheel camper. It's pushing 16,000 lbs without water and both 40 lb propane tanks fillled. And just eough food and clothes for a few days camping. But it does have the Big generator in front and washer dryer. Fireplace, 4 door fridge. its loaded down even 3 Big screen TV's.
Reason I ask, been looking for a crew cab dually with the 7.3. If I go this route it would be pulling our 41ft 5th wheel camper. It's pushing 16,000 lbs without water and both 40 lb propane tanks fillled. And just eough food and clothes for a few days camping. But it does have the Big generator in front and washer dryer. Fireplace, 4 door fridge. its loaded down even 3 Big screen TV's.
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Set up right with gears it will do it fine but be way over weight. My son dose it with his 04 6.0L CC LB 4x4 but he is over weight also. He put in 4.56 gears with his 35 tires, it dose well I just worry about it myself.
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My 02' F-350 Crew Cab Long Bed Dually 4x4 7.3 Auto 4R100 and 4.10 rear end with 32" tires has a towing capacity of 12,500. I tow 13,500 with it and while it does fine I can easily get my tranny too hot and sometimes would like more brakes.
I would only tow 16K+ if it was for a short distance. You need more truck.
When it comes to "will it tow it" questions, it's usually the same answer, of course the 7.3 will pull it fine but, can the truck carry and stop it safely? Not to mention the rumors about insurance not paying for your 5 to 6 digit $$$,$$$ truck and trailer rig because you were overweight when it's wadded up on the side of the road.
I would only tow 16K+ if it was for a short distance. You need more truck.
When it comes to "will it tow it" questions, it's usually the same answer, of course the 7.3 will pull it fine but, can the truck carry and stop it safely? Not to mention the rumors about insurance not paying for your 5 to 6 digit $$$,$$$ truck and trailer rig because you were overweight when it's wadded up on the side of the road.
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My Dad drives an 03 f250 with the 5.4l and our camper is the same weightas the one in the picture above (2013 sandpiper) and his will pull it with no problem at all. Hes changing to the v10 but for now his 5.4 does great.
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A. Whats wrong with the truck in the pics? B. The 7.3 itself is not so much the question for 16K to 18K, the truck is. An F 250/350 is rated for 15K in fifth wheel configuration. An F 450 or 550 dually would be much better suited IMHO.
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As for a 5.4 doing it, I wouldn't do anything near that with a 5.4. I have a 2000 5.4 Expy and my neighbor has a 2001 F250 with the 5.4 that I drive from time to time. It is way underpowered for that kind of weight. If your dad likes that transmission, he won't be doing it for too much longer. That V10 on the other hand, he should like it much better for pulling, but the same issues with braking still apply.
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Sorry left out the F450 part, as that is what I'm looking at.
As for the truck above, I'm not sure it will or will not work out yet. Just trying to cover all bases on this. Don't want to throw 10,000 to 15,000 more dollars at it. And it not work out, but thinking it may just go all the way with it and find out.
As for the post about the F350 only rated for 12,000 lbs? Man my 2500HD is rated for that. Wonder if you looked the normal rating or the 5th wheel rating that is more then what the truck is rated for at the Bumper?
These 7.3's do so great on holding up is the reason I'm looking in that direction.
Not sure why the camper does not have triple axles. But guessing the company did not see any reason to for them. Being when you take 4000 lbs from that for Pin weight. Your still under the rating of each axles, tire and wheels. There Toy haulers do have three axles.
Guys thanks for the info. never can know enough when looking at these trucks.
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As for the truck above, I'm not sure it will or will not work out yet. Just trying to cover all bases on this. Don't want to throw 10,000 to 15,000 more dollars at it. And it not work out, but thinking it may just go all the way with it and find out.
As for the post about the F350 only rated for 12,000 lbs? Man my 2500HD is rated for that. Wonder if you looked the normal rating or the 5th wheel rating that is more then what the truck is rated for at the Bumper?
These 7.3's do so great on holding up is the reason I'm looking in that direction.
Not sure why the camper does not have triple axles. But guessing the company did not see any reason to for them. Being when you take 4000 lbs from that for Pin weight. Your still under the rating of each axles, tire and wheels. There Toy haulers do have three axles.
Guys thanks for the info. never can know enough when looking at these trucks.
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My 5'vr weighs 18500 almost any day of the week and I've been pulling it since 2005. That being said I killed a 1ton in the first yr doing it. Tranny wouldn't take it.
My 550 doesn't care. I even took two leaves OUT of the rear spring pack to get it to ride level with the trailer hooked up. the 450 has one of two rear ends, Dana 110 or 135. rated at 11K or 13.5K respectively. 14-15 in rotors, heavier frame, just better suited for what you're asking it to do. the engine is never the problem, its the gears and the brakes.
that Landmark has 8K axles and probably 17.5 tires. enough to handle the RV less the pin weight.
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My 550 doesn't care. I even took two leaves OUT of the rear spring pack to get it to ride level with the trailer hooked up. the 450 has one of two rear ends, Dana 110 or 135. rated at 11K or 13.5K respectively. 14-15 in rotors, heavier frame, just better suited for what you're asking it to do. the engine is never the problem, its the gears and the brakes.
that Landmark has 8K axles and probably 17.5 tires. enough to handle the RV less the pin weight.
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I think back in the day the trailer tow ratings were on the conservative side. I read on one of the full timer R.V. sites (escapers I think) that a large safety factor was added to the tow ratings.
Now days I think the ratings are over inflated and I wonder about the safety factor.
For example, A 2012 F-350 dually is rated to tow 19,000 lbs (5th wheel). It is a 13,500 lb GVWR chasis. A 2001 F-550 with the 30,000lb GCWR package was rated for about the same 5th wheel tow rating but is a 19,500 GVWR chasis.
Here is a link to the 2001 Trailer Life Towing Guide.
http://www.trailerlife.com/wp-conten...Guide-2001.pdf
Now days I think the ratings are over inflated and I wonder about the safety factor.
For example, A 2012 F-350 dually is rated to tow 19,000 lbs (5th wheel). It is a 13,500 lb GVWR chasis. A 2001 F-550 with the 30,000lb GCWR package was rated for about the same 5th wheel tow rating but is a 19,500 GVWR chasis.
Here is a link to the 2001 Trailer Life Towing Guide.
http://www.trailerlife.com/wp-conten...Guide-2001.pdf
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Not sure why the camper does not have triple axles. But guessing the company did not see any reason to for them. Being when you take 4000 lbs from that for Pin weight. Your still under the rating of each axles, tire and wheels. There Toy haulers do have three axles.
Guys thanks for the info. never can know enough when looking at these trucks.
Pete
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Brakes on Truck, Camper and boat also. Will be adding Tire pressure monitor on all tires and cameras to see the boat back there .
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