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Old 12-15-2013, 07:06 PM
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The OP stated back on post #6 that his data plate was missing.

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Ok, So we think the front axle, with full time four wheel drive, is original to the truck?

Also, how would I determine what axles/differentials I have? Dana 44?

Here is a pic of a plate on the transfer case.


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My 64' has a model 24 as for original? I had my truck since 1985 dont know what happened before
 
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I found a different thread where Number Dummy posted:
"1961/66 F100/250 4WD Ford offered two different Dana Front Axles:

Dana 44-6F (3M) With or Without Free Running Hubs.

Dana 44-6FH/D (3.5M) With or Without Free Running Hubs."

So with that info, is it safe to assume that the front axle is original to my truck?

I will try and get some pics of the front and rear axles tomorrow...

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Also, anybody interested in buying it? Im located in zip code 67846
 
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Originally Posted by tripleframe
Yes, you have a factory 4X4 on the 120" wheelbase. Much lower production numbers than 2WD pickups, definitely a truck worth preserving or restoring. From the photo, I would say it is a nice find. Free running hubs as well as locking rear differential (spicer 44) were extra cost options on '61 F100 4X4's. The flareside box is the only box cataloged for '61 4x4's.
Looks to me that it is factory 4wd the vin indicates that. repairs done by PO who knows the replacements
 
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Originally Posted by BarnieTrk

The OP stated the wheels were 16". They look to me to be the 'outie' style... were 'outies' offered in '61? I thought the early 60s F100s would have had 'innies'..
That outie is from a newer F100, should have the innie style, I bet there are original innies still on the rear. If the rear axle housing has a V shape to it with a bolted on cover, it has the optional Spicer-Dana 44 locking differential. If the rear axle housing is a rounded shape with no bolt on cover, it has the standard non locking Ford axle. The Spicer-Dana 44 was the only front axle available. The Spicer-Dana 44 3.5 was the optional heavy duty 3500lb F 250 front axle option.
 
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Originally Posted by tripleframe
I bet there are original innies still on the rear. If the rear axle housing has a V shape to it with a bolted on cover, it has the optional Spicer-Dana 44 locking differential. If the rear axle housing is a rounded shape with no bolt on cover, it has the standard non locking Ford axle.
Thanks for the info Tripleframe!
I will get a chance to look at the differential tomorrow after work.
 
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The OP stated back on post #6 that his data plate was missing.

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Missing from where? The door where normal persons not familiar with these trucks look?

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Good looking project.
 
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Missing from where? The door where normal persons not familiar with these trucks look? -- Garbz
I hear ya, Garbz. The OP didn't mention where he as looking for the data plate....

1964 f100,
Where were you looking for your '64 F100 data plate - in the glove box or on the door?


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Originally Posted by BarnieTrk
I hear ya, Garbz. The OP didn't mention where he as looking for the data plate....

1964 f100,
Where were you looking for your '64 F100 data plate - in the glove box or on the door?


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Sorry for all the confusion, the truck in question is a 61 f100 4x4, and I have looked in the glove box, and the plate is missing.

I will post a pic of the rear end, and see if we can determine what is has...

Thanks again for all the responses... This site is great!
 
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Originally Posted by BarnieTrk
Love the pic, TripleFrame!

So are you saying that a '61 F100 4X4 could have been ordered with a full-time 4WD front end?

The OP stated the wheels were 16". They look to me to be the 'outie' style... were 'outies' offered in '61? I thought the early 60s F100s would have had 'innies'...?

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Back in the before times...Full time four wheel drive wasn't an option that you could order. It was the way the trucks came.
Free wheel hubs were the option, just like a spare tire carrier or a spare wheel (no tire) or a spare wheel and tire or a heater.... and on and on.

Trucks were trucks. People who drove 4 wheel drive trucks didn't need no sissyfied options like power steering or brakes or automatic transmissions. They knew how to start rigs with a manual choke and could and could stop and start on a hill without rolling backwards.

Oh yeah! Weren't the "good old days" grand?

Sorry to digress. Great looking rig. Wish it was parked in my driveway!

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Heres a pic of the rear end....


..so is this the Dana/Spicer 44 locking differential?
 
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Originally Posted by Roger Carter
Great looking rig. Wish it was parked in my driveway!

Roger Carter
Thanks Roger, and if you'd really like it in your driveway, I'm sure we could arrange it!
 
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Old 12-17-2013, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 1964 f100
Heres a pic of the rear end....


..so is this the Dana/Spicer 44 locking differential?


Yes, it appears to be a Spicer 44, dus to the shape and removable rear cover.

In the early 60's Ford used two different rear differentials in the F-100 trucks.

If the rig was factory ordered with a limited slip, the truck came with a Spicer 44 rear axle with a factory installed limited slip, usually a Power-Lok.
If no limited slip was odrered, a 9" open rear end was under the truck, as tripleframe posted.

In both cases there were optional gear ratios available.

I know this is the case for 2wd rigs, but I am not positive this holds true for the 4x4 trucks, but I believe it does.

The glove box tag would make it easier to define what was "factory", though your truck looks pretty original.
Originally (there's that word again) there would have beed a small metal tag held on the differential by one of the rear cover bolts (third member bolt on a 9"). This tag would call out the gear ratio and whether or not the unit was limited slip, as well as some other information. From your picture I can't tell if the tag is there or not.

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