V10 fuel economy, who are we kidding?
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Well, unlike everyone else in the thread, I did buy mine for fuel economy, over a 460. I needed a truck that could do everything my old diesels could, but alot cheaper upfront cost. Add in approx. 6k miles per year, and it was a no brainer. Now, I wanted to save as much money as possible over those miles, so I chose the V10. Alot of family members have had 460s, pretty much 9 mpg across the board. My 6.8 gets about 9.5 loaded to 20k gcw, and 13 unladen. By the way, thats with a canned 93 octane SCT Tune, single 3" exhaust with Dynomax VT muffler, and 3.73 gears. Don't even try telling me the truck is overloaded with those gears either.
I paid half of what a comparable diesel was, and roughly the same as what a clean, similar mileage 460 crew cab cost, and feel I'm way ahead still 3 years later.
If a guy uses his truck as a truck, or to make money, mpg should always be a consideration imo. More for your bottom line if you keep the thing running efficiently. Now if its just a pavement queen to beat on or burn tires off, then mpg be damned, since nothing you do will improve it.
I paid half of what a comparable diesel was, and roughly the same as what a clean, similar mileage 460 crew cab cost, and feel I'm way ahead still 3 years later.
If a guy uses his truck as a truck, or to make money, mpg should always be a consideration imo. More for your bottom line if you keep the thing running efficiently. Now if its just a pavement queen to beat on or burn tires off, then mpg be damned, since nothing you do will improve it.
I agree with you. When I was looking for a new truck I had two requirements. Newer than the current model I own and low miles. Not many affordable options in diesel compared to gas. For what i paid for my current truck a diesel wouldve pushed me into an older near 100k/mi truck or some under 100k/mi truck that was a rot box.
I also ran a cost spreadsheet with just basics and the gas came out on top with fuel based on a usage of 5000-7000 miles/year. Digging deeper, if you hang on to a truck for a long time it seems to end up a wash when it comes to ownership. With regards to fuel only, a diesel comes out on top when you drive 15k+/year. More miles more savings. But still only after a few years of ownership. Driving few miles just doesnt pay off. Even my diesel buddy agreed that eventhough my v10 gets worse mpg than his cummins they both cost about the same. Funny thing too is he gets about 2-3mpg more than me towing. We both tow short distance. And we both make money using our trucks.
I'm always annoyed when the first thing people say to me after telling them I have a V10 is "those things use a lot of gas". No sh#t huh? As if I never thought of that before I purchased an 8000lb truck with 10 cylinders. Then comes the tiresome explanation that I don't drive a whole lot of miles and I didn't need a $50k diesel to pull a camper a half dozen time a year, blah blah blah. And still it doesn't sink into their head.
To the second part of what you said I can't agree more. I will say my buddies 02 Cummins was a crazy powerful truck. Crazy. And got 20 mpg. But he doesn't have that with the current rig he owns.
Lastly I find it funny how people can and will trade in perfectly running paid off vehicles that have subpar mpg for a payment and better mpgs in a new vehicle...... If you're doing it for the environment I respect that. If youre doing it for "savings" you may need to get your head reexamined. Your payment in the new vehicle was probably what you spent on gas if not less without a payment and now paying fuel for the new mpg car in top of that. Truly, vehicles are no more than liabilities. They'll cost you in the end no matter how and what you drive.
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I actually wear my single digit daily driver V10 MPG's as badge of honor, in a time when people can be so worried about how much gas they are using vs enjoying what they drive and driving what they want to drive i just don't care.
That is the reason i got personal plates with 8 MPG on it, after seeing one to many smug Prius drivers with 40,45,48 mpg on their personal plates i had enough.
That is the reason i got personal plates with 8 MPG on it, after seeing one to many smug Prius drivers with 40,45,48 mpg on their personal plates i had enough.
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I actually wear my single digit daily driver V10 MPG's as badge of honor, in a time when people can be so worried about how much gas they are using vs enjoying what they drive and driving what they want to drive i just don't care.
That is the reason i got personal plates with 8 MPG on it, after seeing one to many smug Prius drivers with 40,45,48 mpg on their personal plates i had enough.
That is the reason i got personal plates with 8 MPG on it, after seeing one to many smug Prius drivers with 40,45,48 mpg on their personal plates i had enough.
Electricity isn't really a "clean" source either. Very low to zero emissions for sure on hybrid and all electric vehicles. Coal fired plants aren't exactly clean and nuclear plants, well their name says it all. But this argument just goes in circles.
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Ok ok if anyone has been around here long they've heard me say it before: but just wanted to pipe in again in case anyone missed it.
In my 07 E350 V10 my average workday is about 80-90 miles highway, and about 30-50 miles city as well. I spent about 5-7 minutes idling after each job doing paperwork and some days that would probably total an hour per day. For many thousand miles I got 11-12mpg driving about 75mph while on highway and idling carelessly.
Recent interest in this forum inspired me to minimize idle time and keep highway speeds at 65mph. These action have me at 12.5-14mpg regularly.
In my 07 E350 V10 my average workday is about 80-90 miles highway, and about 30-50 miles city as well. I spent about 5-7 minutes idling after each job doing paperwork and some days that would probably total an hour per day. For many thousand miles I got 11-12mpg driving about 75mph while on highway and idling carelessly.
Recent interest in this forum inspired me to minimize idle time and keep highway speeds at 65mph. These action have me at 12.5-14mpg regularly.
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I also live at my job, at least onsite. I only leave to go and drop my son off at daycare. Trust me, it's a trade off, I would like to be able to get away from work sometimes, but it's almost impossible.
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Why the trade to a truck that's 7 years older? Assuming by your name you use it for business?