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You are right I dont know the E rated but the recommendation on the door is for stock original tires the second the tire is changed that is when you go off the tire whether or not i know about the E rated or not the recommendation on the door only goes for stock original tires as soon as you change them you go off the tire not the vehicle if you look at the original tires they will say the same as the truck.
Last edited by John Thomas Dorosky; Nov 20, 2013 at 01:14 PM.
I don't think you have much experience with E rated tires. Max pressure is usually 80psi. And the tire pressure recommendation is on the sticker inside the door. On my truck, the sticker says 65psi front and 80psi rear. That is assuming the vehicle is operating at max weight.
You are right I dont know the E rated but the recommendation on the door is for stock original tires the second the tire is changed that is when you go off the tire whether or not i know about the E rated or not the recommendation on the door only goes for stock original tires as soon as you change them you go off the tire not the vehicle if you look at the original tires they will say the same as the truck.
Not true. The door sticker is the correct factory recommended tire pressure for the vehicle given you use the correct tire for the vehicle. Recommended tire pressure follows the vehicle, not the tire.
Now there is a difference between factory recommended pressure and optimum pressure for any given condition, which is why many use the chalk test in some form to maximize tire life.
I went from BFG Commercial t/a's to the BFG all Terrains on the back of my dually & hated them. I ran 80 psi in the commercials, but when I put 80 psi in the all Terrains only the center of the tire touched the ground. Worst towing tire ever!!!
When I complained about them to a tech ( who totally agreed with me) took me into the tire warehouse and showed me the best way to find a tuff tire. Take a tire off the rack & sit on it. The LTX was pretty stiff, the BFG all terrain folded in half.
It's a soft tire that is meant to flex off road. I'll never put them on a pulling rig or expect mileage out of them. However, I would think they would make a great snow plowing tire. Put em on a set of steel wheels for the winter, and get a set of LTX's on some aluminum rims for summer. You'll get 60-80k out of the LTX's
My BFG commercials take occasional abuse quite well. They offer a traction version that I use for drives, but you could run them on all four corners. And they are pretty affordable compared to what else is out there.
I too am very pleased with the BF Goodrich Commercial TA Traction. I run them on my drive tires DRW. They do take alot of abuse well and do very well in the snow. But to get any miles out of them you need to get a flat tire footprint. By doing like John said with the chalk line or use your kids caulk to get the tire pressure right then you can some miles out of them. I read reviews that guys were getting 60k to 65k out of a set of drive tires. I only have about 15k on mine so we will see. I don't know how they work as steer tires but I am sure they would be noisey and kick up alot of rocks.
Originally Posted by Franko72
I went from BFG Commercial t/a's to the BFG all Terrains on the back of my dually & hated them. I ran 80 psi in the commercials, but when I put 80 psi in the all Terrains only the center of the tire touched the ground. Worst towing tire ever!!!
When I complained about them to a tech ( who totally agreed with me) took me into the tire warehouse and showed me the best way to find a tuff tire. Take a tire off the rack & sit on it. The LTX was pretty stiff, the BFG all terrain folded in half.
It's a soft tire that is meant to flex off road. I'll never put them on a pulling rig or expect mileage out of them. However, I would think they would make a great snow plowing tire. Put em on a set of steel wheels for the winter, and get a set of LTX's on some aluminum rims for summer. You'll get 60-80k out of the LTX's
Frank I remember your tread on tires and how you ended up with the LTX's I myself as much as I would love to run the LTX I just don't have the coin. But I am very happy with the Commercial TA Traction on my drives and I am leaning towards the regular Commercial TA as steers. What was your take on the Commercial TA as steer tires. Mind you I have a 2wd too.
I also remember what you had said about sitting on the tires. One day I had time to kill so I stopped in a tire store. I ask the guy if he minds if I pull out a couple of tires and check them out. He said no problem. So I am sitting on tires and a lady in the waiting room was looking at me like I am a FREAK. I just looked at her and smiled. She turned away and put her purse on her lap.
So for you guys that haven't gone tire sitting yet......WARNING
"People around you are going to think you have some kinda weird fetish!"
I too am very pleased with the BF Goodrich Commercial TA Traction. I run them on my drive tires DRW. They do take alot of abuse well and do very well in the snow. But to get any miles out of them you need to get a flat tire footprint. By doing like John said with the chalk line or use your kids caulk to get the tire pressure right then you can some miles out of them. I read reviews that guys were getting 60k to 65k out of a set of drive tires. I only have about 15k on mine so we will see. I don't know how they work as steer tires but I am sure they would be noisey and kick up alot of rocks.
Frank I remember your tread on tires and how you ended up with the LTX's I myself as much as I would love to run the LTX I just don't have the coin. But I am very happy with the Commercial TA Traction on my drives and I am leaning towards the regular Commercial TA as steers. What was your take on the Commercial TA as steer tires. Mind you I have a 2wd too.
I also remember what you had said about sitting on the tires. One day I had time to kill so I stopped in a tire store. I ask the guy if he minds if I pull out a couple of tires and check them out. He said no problem. So I am sitting on tires and a lady in the waiting room was looking at me like I am a FREAK. I just looked at her and smiled. She turned away and put her purse on her lap.
So for you guys that haven't gone tire sitting yet......WARNING
"People around you are going to think you have some kinda weird fetish!"
Given what people around me already think, that would be a step up!
Not true. The door sticker is the correct factory recommended tire pressure for the vehicle given you use the correct tire for the vehicle. Recommended tire pressure follows the vehicle, not the tire.
Now there is a difference between factory recommended pressure and optimum pressure for any given condition, which is why many use the chalk test in some form to maximize tire life.
That's is exactly what I said what like three or four times?
IMO....the tire pressure noted on the frame is what is recommended when the rear is loaded. I could then understand why Ford would recommend 80psi for the rear tires. Running 80psi with an empty bed is crazy and you'll wear the middle treads way before the outer treads.
I too am very pleased with the BF Goodrich Commercial TA Traction. I run them on my drive tires DRW. They do take alot of abuse well and do very well in the snow. But to get any miles out of them you need to get a flat tire footprint. By doing like John said with the chalk line or use your kids caulk to get the tire pressure right then you can some miles out of them. I read reviews that guys were getting 60k to 65k out of a set of drive tires. I only have about 15k on mine so we will see. I don't know how they work as steer tires but I am sure they would be noisey and kick up alot of rocks.
Frank I remember your tread on tires and how you ended up with the LTX's I myself as much as I would love to run the LTX I just don't have the coin. But I am very happy with the Commercial TA Traction on my drives and I am leaning towards the regular Commercial TA as steers. What was your take on the Commercial TA as steer tires. Mind you I have a 2wd too.
I have the LTX's on my steer axle and Michelin XPS Tractions on the rear. I had no issues at all from the BFG commercials. I loved them and have a set on my camper.
If & when I wear out my XPS Tractions I'll prob go back to the commercial T/A's or the traction T/A's like you run. They are a great tire for the price.
The XPS's are a very stout tire with a price to match. They're overkill now that I'm not towing much any more. But what a Great tire!
Thanks again for all the help. From reading all the posts i will keep the tires at a lower pressure and hopefully they will last a little while longer. I'm going back with the bfg all terrains but this time i will rotate and monitor pressure better. Now here's a strange thing my pops 10 f250 4x4 with plow package says on the door sticker for stock bfg rugged terrain 75psi cold front and rear?
Now here's a strange thing my pops 10 f250 4x4 with plow package says on the door sticker for stock bfg rugged terrain 75psi cold front and rear?
AJ
Sounds a bit high to me My buddy runs them on his '99 F250 4x4 and he runs 60 front, 55 rear or the truck gets squirrely. (this is without a plow of course) But 75 psi sounds high in the rear to me.
I do remember the tire place telling him that they changed something on the BFG All Terrains and the squirrely complaint was common. (same issue I had) This was within the past year. Neither him or I can remember what the guy told us so you may want to ask.
Not trying to talk you out of that tire at all AJ. Just throwing it out there.
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