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I would guess there is a 582B since there is an A, however, that was originally to designate the signal. So maybe there is a 582B signal? No idea, just guessing.

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Employees? Of the railroads?

I think it's memorializing a couple of the rail-fans who helped develop the hill into what it is today, which is kinda' "park-like".

Not sure about this, however.

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Yes, railroad employees.
Maybe using that word assume, I really thought this location was about memorializing those who died working on this section of dangerous lines, up and down the Pass.

Trying find out more, I ran across this picture which I thought was pretty cool. #562.

ATSF 562 (1)
 
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The Don Toles website is considered the definitive history of Hill 582:
Cajon Pass - History of Hill 582 by Don E. Toles

Here's an even better explanation:
http://www.trainorders.com/discussio...96#msg-1178396

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Originally Posted by Nighteyez
I would guess there is a 582B since there is an A, however, that was originally to designate the signal. So maybe there is a 582B signal? No idea, just guessing.

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Just looking at Pop's map, it seems to show only that one location as 562. Can't find more, however, Something else for trivia, the section just south of there is call drawbar flats because...

"The area has been known as "drawbar flats" for many years. It got that name due to the grade flattens out a bit through the curve and as such trains slow down and sometimes you have to start pulling on the train to keep it moving which tends to break knuckles and if you pull hard enough, will pull a drawbar out.-BMT." A quote from Trainorders.com
 
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One other interesting point was that just prior to the train coming around the bend, this tracks signals as see just below, had a red light over a green light?
So in trying to get more RR info, here's the answer to my question above...

http://trn.trains.com/~/media/import...gnal_rules.pdf

A red over green mean diverging - clear, proceed through diverging route...

The more you dig in, the more you realize, how little you know.
 
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And.....

That definition of "red over green" is just the one for the Santa Fe at the time it was published.

There is no universally-defined signal interpretation. Each railroad can have it's own definitions, irrespective of any other railroad.

Can you imagine the possibilities for confusion in the time after a railroad merger?

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Thanks from Aidie Cal

Unc Bob,

Aidric was thrilled with his newly minted coin!
 
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I give....

Angry Birds?

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Went to a second-grader's Holiday Recital this evening, and as we walked in the classroom, the teacher handed each adult a sheet of paper with lines numbered 1 - 50.

"Please write down all the states you can remember".

I couldn't remember Connecticut, but I got all the rest!

Lesson learned.......

Remember Connecticut!

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That seems like an odd thing.


Getting the paper handed to you at a recital...not the forgetting Connecticut part
 
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Angry Birds.

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I give....

Angry Birds?

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Yes, Birds meet Darth V., I think the squashed Qtr will win.
 
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That seems like an odd thing.
The first song the kids sang was one that had all the states' names

Guess she was trying to say, "Your kids know the names of all 50. Do you?"

At least that's my best guess.......

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Do you?"

At least that's my best guess.......

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You did well Pop, next year it'll be state capitals...


I recall in High School taking Mexico history; we had to know states and capitals. I really liked the states with their same name capitals.
 
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Originally Posted by wpnaes
Unc Bob,

Aidric was thrilled with his newly minted coin!
How cool is that. I'm glad to see it's going to good use.

Next will be to bring him along on another RR trip. Looking forward to one soon.

I have since our trip, watched more Hill 582 videos then you can imagine, and one Tehachapi loop video. It catchy one you start.

Nothing better than a big smile!
 


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