Transmission is confused
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Transmission is confused
After the hard downshifting full throttle highway run low speed stomp on it freeway cruising tires spinning on gravel crawling through town day yesterday -
my tranny just doesn't know what to do!! LOL!!
One thing that it does like to do is make that 6.2 spin and sing!
Eventually we'll be on the same page so we can work and play seamlessly.
I'm looking forward to this new friendship.
my tranny just doesn't know what to do!! LOL!!
One thing that it does like to do is make that 6.2 spin and sing!
Eventually we'll be on the same page so we can work and play seamlessly.
I'm looking forward to this new friendship.
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a comment on ford's "adaptive shift" strategy and its ability to learn how the driver drives in order to provide a better quality shift.
in my experience, their learning strategy rides the short bus to school.
in my experience, their learning strategy rides the short bus to school.
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I wish we had a selector like some Subarus have. Economy and sport mode. I have only spun rear tires spin a few times on wet and possibly oily starts from red lights. I think this will be a much worse problem this winter. I have the 4.3 ratio.
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Yep mine shifts the same way, I call it lazy, especially the 2-3 shift. Then if you are slowing down and almost come to a stop and then punch it, it does nothing, it doesn't know what to do. Count to two and then it takes off, this really annoys me as it could be dangerous.
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"a comment on ford's "adaptive shift" strategy and its ability to learn how the driver drives in order to provide a better quality shift.
in my experience, their learning strategy rides the short bus to school."
Yup.
"Then if you are slowing down and almost come to a stop and then punch it, it does nothing, it doesn't know what to do"
It doesn't "un"learn that?
I was planning on tuning sometime down the road but I've got to get the tranny to knock that sh#t off.
in my experience, their learning strategy rides the short bus to school."
Yup.
"Then if you are slowing down and almost come to a stop and then punch it, it does nothing, it doesn't know what to do"
It doesn't "un"learn that?
I was planning on tuning sometime down the road but I've got to get the tranny to knock that sh#t off.
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I kinda know what you mean, had a situation on I64 few weeks back when I needed to pop out from behind a slow/stopping for no reason car in front of moving at interstate speed traffic.
Dang truck droped from 6th to 2nd, then to 4th then back to 3rd and took off like a bat out of a hot place with that 6.2 screaming like it was getting raped.
I let out of it as soon as I could and it shifted normally, I did not like to do the truck that way with less then 1k on the clock, but had no choice unless I was to either run over that stopping car or get ran over.....
I do have to say that 6.2 has some power when the trans makes up its mind where it wants to be....
Dang truck droped from 6th to 2nd, then to 4th then back to 3rd and took off like a bat out of a hot place with that 6.2 screaming like it was getting raped.
I let out of it as soon as I could and it shifted normally, I did not like to do the truck that way with less then 1k on the clock, but had no choice unless I was to either run over that stopping car or get ran over.....
I do have to say that 6.2 has some power when the trans makes up its mind where it wants to be....
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Honestly, I can't stop laughing, no amount of punctuation will save this.
Welcome to FTE BG!
And for what it's worth, nothing will help the stock shift strategies except a tuner. Stock sucks!
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Two biggest disappointments in my new 2013 F350 with the 6.2.
1. The ridiculously weak rear springs.
2. The 6-speed's inability to let the truck's torque do its thing. My 2004 5.4L works much better with just the 4 gears. This 6-speed just shifts and shifts and shifts all day long with a load behind it. I hope the cooler on the thing is HUGE.
1. The ridiculously weak rear springs.
2. The 6-speed's inability to let the truck's torque do its thing. My 2004 5.4L works much better with just the 4 gears. This 6-speed just shifts and shifts and shifts all day long with a load behind it. I hope the cooler on the thing is HUGE.
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Yes.
I used it many, many times for downshifting and to vary the rpm's on the highway.
I bought a 6.2 gasser with an automatic, not a 6.2 gasser with a retard.
If it can't learn then it will get shock treatment until it does what I want.
I used it many, many times for downshifting and to vary the rpm's on the highway.
I bought a 6.2 gasser with an automatic, not a 6.2 gasser with a retard.
If it can't learn then it will get shock treatment until it does what I want.
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At the Ford training center they have a 2011 F250 there that they use for training and hauling around equipment. The instructor said "It has a hard 2/3 shift and a harsh 3/2 downshift". The funny part......"Why does it do that? I taught it!" You get a new truck and you want to see how much power it has, so you punch it! His was in the 2/3 shift, so, it learned it. So, ask yourself, "Am I causing this?" Many of these trucks you can actually repair them by resetting perameters then taking it for a drive and drive it sensibly. Then giving it back to the customer.
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very true, but then when the customer steps on it again, it will get all confused.
the best thing i have found is to either always drive the same, no matter what (which is impossible)
or randomly change your driving style. drive it hard for a couple starts then drive it easy a couple starts, then somewhere in between a few times.
then at varying cruising speeds, randomly mash the gas a few times in a row, then step into it easy a few times in a row.
doing this has taught my work truck to shift reasonably no mater what i do on the road.
at least it seemed to work in my half ton .... after almost 30k, it seems to have figured out that it can't figure me out.
the best thing i have found is to either always drive the same, no matter what (which is impossible)
or randomly change your driving style. drive it hard for a couple starts then drive it easy a couple starts, then somewhere in between a few times.
then at varying cruising speeds, randomly mash the gas a few times in a row, then step into it easy a few times in a row.
doing this has taught my work truck to shift reasonably no mater what i do on the road.
at least it seemed to work in my half ton .... after almost 30k, it seems to have figured out that it can't figure me out.
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very true, but then when the customer steps on it again, it will get all confused.
the best thing i have found is to either always drive the same, no matter what (which is impossible)
or randomly change your driving style. drive it hard for a couple starts then drive it easy a couple starts, then somewhere in between a few times.
then at varying cruising speeds, randomly mash the gas a few times in a row, then step into it easy a few times in a row.
doing this has taught my work truck to shift reasonably no mater what i do on the road.
at least it seemed to work in my half ton .... after almost 30k, it seems to have figured out that it can't figure me out.
the best thing i have found is to either always drive the same, no matter what (which is impossible)
or randomly change your driving style. drive it hard for a couple starts then drive it easy a couple starts, then somewhere in between a few times.
then at varying cruising speeds, randomly mash the gas a few times in a row, then step into it easy a few times in a row.
doing this has taught my work truck to shift reasonably no mater what i do on the road.
at least it seemed to work in my half ton .... after almost 30k, it seems to have figured out that it can't figure me out.