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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 09:35 PM
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Dana Question....

I have a Dana 44 open knuckle front axel in my truck, but all of the diagrams I have seen in my manuals and after a search online, have hubs that do not look like mine. Rather, they have a straight tube from the hub ending in the lockout. Mine have a tapered cap topped with the lockout:



The only number I have been able to find under the muck so far is C37070. Can you help me ID this axel? I am trying to find original Spicer lockouts and want to make sure I am looking for the right parts. TIA
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 09:45 PM
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Did a quick Google and located this: The FORDification.com Forums • View topic - My Dana 44

Alternatively, look up the BOM in Dana's application & reference manuals: Dana Holding Corporation The Expert Librarian - Information for driveshafts, u-joints, axles, heavy axles, light axles, Drivelines

Scroll to the bottom third of the page.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 10:02 PM
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don't quote me on it but I think those are just the over the counter replacements for the factory spicer two piece ones your talking about. looks like you have a dana 44 hd axle.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 1970 Yeti
all of the diagrams I have seen in my manuals and after a search online, have hubs that do not look like mine. Rather, they have a straight tube from the hub ending in the lockout. Mine have a tapered cap topped with the lockout

It's a D44HD axle with aftermarket Warn's

The oem Spicers look like so...

 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by HIO Silver
Did a quick Google and located this: The FORDification.com Forums • View topic - My Dana 44

Alternatively, look up the BOM in Dana's application & reference manuals: Dana Holding Corporation The Expert Librarian - Information for driveshafts, u-joints, axles, heavy axles, light axles, Drivelines

Scroll to the bottom third of the page.
HIO I saw that article and the axel he sourced is the only other picture I saw of an axel that looked like mine and am inclined to believe that I have a std 44. However all of the lockouts I have seen seem to only be the front cap of the lockout or are shown on an axel with a "straight tube hub". What I have almost looks like some type of adaptor to use a smaller style lockout.

FWIW the hub appears to be 4.5" where it is protruding through the rim which tells me I have the large hub.. which is a HD axel?

The only way I am going to tell for sure I guess is to go down to the Solar and blow all the gunk off the front axel to see if I can find the BOM. My bet is the stamp is under the "ram assist"
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 10:10 PM
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don't quote me on it but I think those are just the over the counter replacements for the factory spicer two piece ones your talking about. looks like you have a dana 44 hd axle.
Originally Posted by montana_highboy
It's a D44HD axle with aftermarket Warn's

The oem Spicers look like so...

Ok, so disregard the last post... As I was running out to take measurements looks like I now have my answer. Are the Spicer 2-piece for the HD still available? Or am I stuck with the Warn's? Off to Google I go.....
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 10:21 PM
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Are the Spicer 2-piece for the HD still available? Or am I stuck with the Warn's? Off to Google I go.....
Used sets are available on ebay from time to time (and sometimes NOS as well)

I believe forum members "Hickory1991" and "Scott79" have NOS sets they're selling.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by montana_highboy
Used sets are available on ebay from time to time (and sometimes NOS as well)

I believe forum members "Hickory1991" and "Scott79" have NOS sets they're selling.
Thanks for the heads up, reps your way . Seems the Spicer models fetch a premium... Are the Warn's that bad in comparison?
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 10:44 PM
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Thanks for the heads up, reps your way . Seems the Spicer models fetch a premium... Are the Warn's that bad in comparison?
IMO, and most others here, the oem Spicers are stronger than the Warn's....from a pure aesthetic point of view I prefer the retro and period correct look of the Spicers, but that's just a matter of personal taste.

The Spicers do fetch a premium, particularly on ebay, but can often times be had for a decent price if you can find them in the junkyard....but finding a good set that isn't beat up can be difficult.

Here's a few sets currently listed on ebay (all overpriced imo since they're used and not NOS)...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Dana-Spicer-44-60-HD-48-Spline-External-Manual-Locking-Hubs-/251323500065?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a840c4621&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Dana-Spicer-44-60-HD-48-Spline-External-Manual-Locking-Hubs-/251323500065?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a840c4621&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DANA-44-BIG-HUB-FRONT-SPICER-MANUAL-LOCKING-HUBS-19-SPLINE-CHEVY-BLUE-/360750207363?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53fe635183&vxp=mtr

The red "FORD" dials are available thru DC for $12 ea.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-New-Ford-Truck-F250-D2TZ-A-Lockout-Hub-Actuating-*****-4X4-Dana-Spicer-Axle-/281181246476?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4177b5540c&vxp=mtr
 
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 06:09 AM
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I found a set at the local swap meet this past spring, he wanted to 200 for the hubs alone, not NOS half decent shape. I was going to grab them if they were reasonable. Thought 200 was way too much.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2013 | 11:12 AM
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I prefer the Spicer hubs too. I lucked out and found a set of the nos caps really cheap. were these hubs the same as the dana 60's but without the spacer?
 
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