headliner questions
#1
headliner questions
My 66 never had a headliner since I've owned it. I have made the headliner thanks to help here with a pdf. I do not have the clips and am awaiting them. My question since I never took it out is: If the largest piece is #1, the rear #2 and the two side pieces #3 -- then is installation #1-#2 #3 or does the rear cover #2 (#1- #3 #2 order) and how do the clips work?
can't find a picture of them here
Thanks Scott
can't find a picture of them here
Thanks Scott
#3
A look at my '66 tells me the corner pieces and the large front piece can go on in either order because they don't overlap, at least not on mine. The back piece must go on last.
When you see the clips you'll get the idea. As to how they work, the answer is not too well. I plan to replace my cardboard with a shower-stall material and I hope to devise a fastening system involving J-nuts and screws.
Eric
When you see the clips you'll get the idea. As to how they work, the answer is not too well. I plan to replace my cardboard with a shower-stall material and I hope to devise a fastening system involving J-nuts and screws.
Eric
#4
Main panel goes in first...then the sides, then the rear.
You need to remove the rear window to install the rear panel-a good time to replace the window
rubber-use the string method for install.
Do you have the aluminum trim that goes over the headliner over the door areas?
Also, you need to attach the screw in the main panel center to the ceiling hole in the cross-beam...
I used a 2x4 resting through the open rear window and resting on the dash and drilled a hole in the
2x4 for a laser pointer to fit and point to the hole in the ceiling cross-member once the panel was in
place. Clips go across the front and also go across the rear for the rear window panel to slide into.
I think I have photos of it on my profile section...
Jason
You need to remove the rear window to install the rear panel-a good time to replace the window
rubber-use the string method for install.
Do you have the aluminum trim that goes over the headliner over the door areas?
Also, you need to attach the screw in the main panel center to the ceiling hole in the cross-beam...
I used a 2x4 resting through the open rear window and resting on the dash and drilled a hole in the
2x4 for a laser pointer to fit and point to the hole in the ceiling cross-member once the panel was in
place. Clips go across the front and also go across the rear for the rear window panel to slide into.
I think I have photos of it on my profile section...
Jason
#5
I tried the shower stall stuff. It works ok unless its 80+ degrees, then it gets so flexible that it will not hold its form.
I use a flat plastic tool to work the window rubber over the side and rear pieces and do not have to remove the glass.
I bought mine from these guys. Im very happy with it. Well worth the cost IMO.
65-66 Ford Full Size Truck, Standard Cab Headliner, F100/F150 1965, 1966
I use a flat plastic tool to work the window rubber over the side and rear pieces and do not have to remove the glass.
I bought mine from these guys. Im very happy with it. Well worth the cost IMO.
65-66 Ford Full Size Truck, Standard Cab Headliner, F100/F150 1965, 1966
#7
According to the numbers your using 3,1,2 or 1,3,2
The back window does not have to come out, As was said earlier, use a flat plastic tool to work the rubber.
The key to installing the four piece headliner is patients and a second body. (Have a buddy help you)
Do not rush this job. When you put the corners (#3) on, you'll see how the rubber needs to go over the pieces. Practice with your plastic tool on the corner pieces, this will help you when you put on #2
If your going to be using a dome light, make sure to run your wires prior to installation.
The center cross beam originally has one hole for a screw to hold main piece (#1) Prior to installing main piece you can add additional screw holes. I've seen the insides where as many as five screws were used. I think three would be more than sufficient. Be careful drilling new holes. Use a rubber sleeve on bit to allow for just enough of bit to do the job. Do not apply pressure to drill (hold firmly) while drilling let the bit do it's job.
I personally do not like this main piece, I've never seen one without sags in the front.
I wonder if Velcro would help?
Any way, take your time and have a buddy help you.
The back window does not have to come out, As was said earlier, use a flat plastic tool to work the rubber.
The key to installing the four piece headliner is patients and a second body. (Have a buddy help you)
Do not rush this job. When you put the corners (#3) on, you'll see how the rubber needs to go over the pieces. Practice with your plastic tool on the corner pieces, this will help you when you put on #2
If your going to be using a dome light, make sure to run your wires prior to installation.
The center cross beam originally has one hole for a screw to hold main piece (#1) Prior to installing main piece you can add additional screw holes. I've seen the insides where as many as five screws were used. I think three would be more than sufficient. Be careful drilling new holes. Use a rubber sleeve on bit to allow for just enough of bit to do the job. Do not apply pressure to drill (hold firmly) while drilling let the bit do it's job.
I personally do not like this main piece, I've never seen one without sags in the front.
I wonder if Velcro would help?
Any way, take your time and have a buddy help you.
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#8
Thanks all for the info so far. I do not have the clips kit yet --but a few I found in the cab. I am trying to fabricate from a pdf I had copied at Kinkos. I am using the Shower material like shadow but choose the FRP (not NRP)since it is not affected by temperature- However its stiff and VERY hard to work with. I'm trying to fit it all- then I will remove and cover with headliner material that will match the final interior seat.
I have #1 and #3 installed. The #2 forward clip looks to be impossible to work- does anyone have a picture of this? It seems a good bump in the road will bring it down. Perhaps the clip I have is broken or I'm looking at it wrong
The Previous owner installed the window backwards so I will have to remove it anyway and reverse the rubber gasket.
So far ALL have been right- its a two man job I'm trying by myself
I'll keep you posted and send pics -If I get it installed.
Scott
I have #1 and #3 installed. The #2 forward clip looks to be impossible to work- does anyone have a picture of this? It seems a good bump in the road will bring it down. Perhaps the clip I have is broken or I'm looking at it wrong
The Previous owner installed the window backwards so I will have to remove it anyway and reverse the rubber gasket.
So far ALL have been right- its a two man job I'm trying by myself
I'll keep you posted and send pics -If I get it installed.
Scott
#10
I got the pdf from a member Broomfieldbum. His name is Randy and it helped me tremendously. You will have to talk to him, since I don't have it anymore. I had it copied full size at Kinkos and used FRP from Lowes. A total of about $55. Its hard to work with, but can be done by a newby like me.
One caution- another member Shadowrider said he used the same material and when it got hot- sagged and had to throw his away. I used FRP material since a similar material NRP will be affected by temperature. I'm in FL and it was 93 here last week and it has not sagged at all. Shadow said he also used FRP and his did. So the jury is still out.
I posted pictures on the "anyone installed an ABS Headliner" thread, so you can see if you like the final look
One caution- another member Shadowrider said he used the same material and when it got hot- sagged and had to throw his away. I used FRP material since a similar material NRP will be affected by temperature. I'm in FL and it was 93 here last week and it has not sagged at all. Shadow said he also used FRP and his did. So the jury is still out.
I posted pictures on the "anyone installed an ABS Headliner" thread, so you can see if you like the final look
#12
I know this is an old thread, but my question is related.
I just purchased the trim that goes over the inside door. But i do not have any screws. NumberDummys picture shows 519A19, but i have no luck finding what the screws are supposed to be.
Does anybody know what they are supposed to be?
Thanks
I just purchased the trim that goes over the inside door. But i do not have any screws. NumberDummys picture shows 519A19, but i have no luck finding what the screws are supposed to be.
Does anybody know what they are supposed to be?
Thanks
#13
I know this is an old thread, but my question is related.
I just purchased the trim that goes over the inside door. But i do not have any screws. NumberDummys picture shows 519A19, but i have no luck finding what the screws are supposed to be.
Does anybody know what they are supposed to be?
Thanks
I just purchased the trim that goes over the inside door. But i do not have any screws. NumberDummys picture shows 519A19, but i have no luck finding what the screws are supposed to be.
Does anybody know what they are supposed to be?
Thanks
#8 x 1" phillips oval head tapping screw chrome plated