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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 04:39 PM
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Longevity

I've been reading these for what feels like forever, knowledge is power they say. If I have a late model 6.0, ' 05 or '06, and I do the basic bullet proofing
-EGR delete
-new oil cooler
-coolant filter
-blue spring
-run T6 rotella
-run diesel additive in every tank
-I'd probably run a 60 HP tow tune from innovative on an SCT

What kind of longevity should I see out of a 6.0? The amount of mileage people are getting out of their 6.0's seems to vary so greatly
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 05:21 PM
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I would hope 300-400k, I am doing/done all of your list. I also have post/pre turbo/fuel/coolant pressure gauges along with edge insight gauge
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by thinksnow
I've been reading these for what feels like forever, knowledge is power they say. If I have a late model 6.0, ' 05 or '06, and I do the basic bullet proofing
-EGR delete
-new oil cooler
-coolant filter
-blue spring
-run T6 rotella
-run diesel additive in every tank
-I'd probably run a 60 HP tow tune from innovative on an SCT

What kind of longevity should I see out of a 6.0? The amount of mileage people are getting out of their 6.0's seems to vary so greatly
I'm new to diesels. I bought my truck bone stock at 172,000 miles. It still has original TTY headbolts, EGR, oil cooler. It's a 2WD, nothing really upgraded until I bought it. It now has almost 176,000 miles. Everything in my sig pic is what I have done, along with installing Rancho RS9000XL shocks on the rear (waiting on the fronts).

Longevity depends on what the previous owner did as far as maintenance. I won't be doing my oil cooler until it is time. Same with the EGR Cooler/EGR delete. You could get lucky, you could be unlucky. Right now I just had to order a new radiator for my truck. Went with an all aluminum from BPD after mine was leaking at the upper seam.

Running tunes, from what I have read, is what makes your truck no longer 'bulletproof'. That may or may not be a bad thing if you know how to work on these things. Maintenance, Maintenance, Maintenance. My stock 6.0 2WD gets 18.2mpg on average. The lie-o-meter says 19.1, but hand calculating gets me about a mile less per gallon.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 99ExpyProblems
Longevity depends on what the previous owner did as far as maintenance.
Running tunes, from what I have read, is what makes your truck no longer 'bulletproof'. .
The current owner now hold the maintenance key, Bullet proof should be bullet resistant. A lot of longevity is how you treat your truck...
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 99ExpyProblems

Longevity depends on what the previous owner did as far as maintenance. ....
.....Maintenance, Maintenance, Maintenance.....
Right now mine is basically stock (one in signature) 260K miles right now, only thing major i have done is 2 Injectors and ICP/IPR. Will be doing the other 6 injectors tomorrow, and if I feel motivated I'm going to hollow out the cat. At this point in your trucks life I personally believe that its pretty much going to be electronics / sensors that give you issues as they get old. Maintenance is key, and don't abuse it with pulling contests and such.

Most importantly ENJOY YOUR TRUCK!
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 10:12 PM
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I was just reading the post from enduroman about being his 2nd oil cooler. He has a EGR delete, coolant filter, etc.... And now he is on his 2nd oil cooler and has a 24* delta. That's the kind of 6.0 nightmare that scares the crap out of me
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by thinksnow
I was just reading the post from enduroman about being his 2nd oil cooler. He has a EGR delete, coolant filter, etc.... And now he is on his 2nd oil cooler and has a 24* delta. That's the kind of 6.0 nightmare that scares the crap out of me
and of course there always the "Fates" that like to mess w/ us.
not as drastic but a simple Fuel Filter change cause me an extra 2hrs of work. the damn O-ring would go in place. eventually bought a new cap and ring.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 99ExpyProblems
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Running tunes, from what I have read, is what makes your truck no longer 'bulletproof'. .
But is that really true? I mean doesn't some of the SCT tunes actually help the engine and tranny?

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Originally Posted by CLINT-THE-GREAT
......... I mean doesn't some of the SCT tunes actually help the engine and tranny?

-The Great
Probably a diverse range of opinions on this, but IMO the answer to your question is ..... No.

Some tunes can add power at LESS risk than with other tunes, but if you add power, you have more risk.

One exception might be an EGR delete tune (ie a tune for ONLY compensating for a deleted EGR system). I have always wondered whether or not deleting the EGR system .... WITHOUT accounting for that change in the PCM programming ... actually increases your chances of head gasket lifting (what is its impact on timing and cylinder pressures, etc).

I would love to see what others think on the subject!
 
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Originally Posted by thinksnow
I've been reading these for what feels like forever, knowledge is power they say. If I have a late model 6.0, ' 05 or '06, and I do the basic bullet proofing
-EGR delete
-new oil cooler
-coolant filter
-blue spring
-run T6 rotella
-run diesel additive in every tank
-I'd probably run a 60 HP tow tune from innovative on an SCT

What kind of longevity should I see out of a 6.0? The amount of mileage people are getting out of their 6.0's seems to vary so greatly
There are TONS of threads on the subject for sure.

You really do need gauges - including adding the sensors for fuel pressure and EGT's.

IMO a new owner should ALREADY have the basic add-on gauges (like what you get with a scangaugeII), because I do not think a person should buy a used 6.0L without monitoring some basic things - ESPECIALLY the ECT and EOT and the difference between the two!!!

The 05 and up systems have a weak HPO fittings. The STC fitting needs to be changed out and new dummy plugs and standpipes will improve reliability. Having the FICM "repaired" by FICMRepair.com will improve its reliability. Also - make sure you ALWAYS keep a healthy battery/charging system.

You had better develp a good maintenance program - proper filters, proper fluids, proper intervals. This includes the coolant.

Don't drive it hard until the engine has warmed up.

As far as injectors go, folks should not be surprised if they start having issues after 250k miles. If they go longer, then great! If they are taken care of, then 250k miles should be an average life IMO. When the time comes, a set of injectors are going to run you around $2500 in parts.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 07:02 AM
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Just an opinion based on lists of other people's experiences, but running tunes with the original TTY head bolts is asking for trouble.

In injectors, run additive in every tank should keep the injectors happy.

The 6.0 I'd s half million mile engine with all the uogrades done.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by lupuseven
Right now mine is basically stock (one in signature) 260K miles right now, only thing major i have done is 2 Injectors and ICP/IPR. Will be doing the other 6 injectors tomorrow, and if I feel motivated I'm going to hollow out the cat. At this point in your trucks life I personally believe that its pretty much going to be electronics / sensors that give you issues as they get old. Maintenance is key, and don't abuse it with pulling contests and such.

Most importantly ENJOY YOUR TRUCK!
I see you live a couple of miles from me. Hope you have a spare cat for the smog testing every other year. They are only going to get more stringent as time goes on.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by bismic
IMO a new owner should ALREADY have the basic add-on gauges (like what you get with a scangaugeII), because I do not think a person should by a used 6.0L without monitoring some basic things - ESPECIALLY the ECT and EOT and the difference between the two!!!
I agree with Mark here. If I had to do it all over again, I would have purchased the ScanGaugeII and brought it with me when I went to look at potential trucks. That's the ONLY way anyone should buy one of these 6.0's. If you don't, you're risking spending a whole lot more money before you ever 'really' get to drive the truck! Especially if you are buying it for towing/hauling.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by thinksnow
I was just reading the post from enduroman about being his 2nd oil cooler. He has a EGR delete, coolant filter, etc.... And now he is on his 2nd oil cooler and has a 24* delta. That's the kind of 6.0 nightmare that scares the crap out of me
Originally Posted by bismic
There are TONS of threads on the subject for sure.

You really do need gauges - including adding the sensors for fuel pressure and EGT's.

IMO a new owner should ALREADY have the basic add-on gauges (like what you get with a scangaugeII), because I do not think a person should buy a used 6.0L without monitoring some basic things - ESPECIALLY the ECT and EOT and the difference between the two!!!

The 05 and up systems have a weak HPO fittings. The STC fitting needs to be changed out and new dummy plugs and standpipes will improve reliability. Having the FICM "repaired" by FICMRepair.com will improve its reliability. Also - make sure you ALWAYS keep a healthy battery/charging system.

You had better develp a good maintenance program - proper filters, proper fluids, proper intervals. This includes the coolant.

Don't drive it hard until the engine has warmed up.

As far as injectors go, folks should not be surprised if they start having issues after 250k miles. If they go longer, then great! If they are taken care of, then 250k miles should be an average life IMO. When the time comes, a set of injectors are going to run you around $2500 in parts.
Your post and Marks reply go hand in hand to avoid what you worried about the best thing you can do is monitor before buying, IMHO these things happen because of poor maintenance by previous owners and seam to be harder to clear up.
 
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Originally Posted by thinksnow
I was just reading the post from enduroman about being his 2nd oil cooler. He has a EGR delete, coolant filter, etc.... And now he is on his 2nd oil cooler and has a 24* delta. That's the kind of 6.0 nightmare that scares the crap out of me
Possibly the coolant flushing, I changed mine when doing the egr delete/studs/coolant filter. With my edge insight I can see the delta spread getting larger as the oil gets to end of life. I think digital gauges are as important as maintenance.
 
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