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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 05:43 PM
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trailer battery

just curious, im getting 13.4 volts max at trailer batt terminals,
while truck is running at idle, fully warmed up(2012 f350)

its a new marine starting/deep cycle battery

kinda think my old battery had a short life due to inadequate charging,
not sure really -- it lasted 3 years

is my 13.4 volts normal?
is adequate charging more a function of drive/running time?
 
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jbrianas
just curious, im getting 13.4 volts max at trailer batt terminals,
while truck is running at idle, fully warmed up(2012 f350)

its a new marine starting/deep cycle battery

kinda think my old battery had a short life due to inadequate charging,
not sure really -- it lasted 3 years

is my 13.4 volts normal?
is adequate charging more a function of drive/running time?
Totally normal. How do you know the previous battery failed due to lack of charging?

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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 09:08 PM
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don't know for sure, but it gets a lot of use during the day,
pull up to job truck is shut off, run acc. in trailer 5-10 minutes,
then drive 10 minutes to next job, same cycle roughly 10 times a day

could tell lights in trailer getting progressively dimmer over past couple years, lights nice and bright again with new battery
 
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jbrianas
don't know for sure, but it gets a lot of use during the day,
pull up to job truck is shut off, run acc. in trailer 5-10 minutes,
then drive 10 minutes to next job, same cycle roughly 10 times a day

could tell lights in trailer getting progressively dimmer over past couple years, lights nice and bright again with new battery
It may be charge level is adequate, but not long enough. Check battery voltage at start and end of work day to see if voltage is coming back up. If battery is fully charged you should see at least 12.6 VDC in new battery. If hot, it might be best to use a battery charger on the battery at night. Batteries which are only partially recharged have a much reduced lifespan.

What kind of accessories is battery powering during work?

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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 06:15 AM
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Ever check the level inside the battery? I had that happen one time on these batteries where is ran dry so now I check them every month.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 06:42 AM
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Ever check the level inside the battery? I had that happen one time on these batteries where is ran dry so now I check them every month.
One of the things you will find is water usage increases as batteries age and once cells goes dry the battery is permanently damaged. It's full potential never comes back, if routine maintenance is ignored. Using AGM batteries is pricey, but is one way to avoid having to deal with water loss and they have much better tolerance for severe discharges.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 08:29 AM
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thanks for info,
yes i will check voltage in am and then in pm after work
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sealed battery no level to check
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running inside trailer lights- about 10 bulbs total
and 2 flojet pumps rated at 8 amp each average
and very ocasionally run inverter/charger unit to power vaccuum, microwave etc...
 
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 11:31 AM
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With the usage described, there is no way the battery could remain reasonably charged, give the duty cycle of the re-charge method.

Overnight re-charging is in your future if you want to keep this battery healthy for more than just a few days.

It also would be wise to consider using a "deep cycle" type battery.

You're asking too much of it without feeding it enough.

Gonna' die.

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With the usage described, there is no way the battery could remain reasonably charged, give the duty cycle of the re-charge method.

Overnight re-charging is in your future if you want to keep this battery healthy for more than just a few days.

It also would be wise to consider using a "deep cycle" type battery.

You're asking too much of it without feeding it enough.

Gonna' die.

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I agree. This is the wrong type battery for this application.

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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 03:22 PM
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well I guess we were in agreement on the batt.
the oem batt was a marine starting batt,
I replaced it with this marine deep cycle batt
Optima BlueTop® Sealed Starting/Deep Cycle AGM Battery Group Size 27 | Product Details | Pep Boys

but I should mention I did get 3 years and few months service out of the oem batt,
I suppose that is not too bad, but ill hope for a bit more out of the new one

one interesting thing of note on the new batt is the static voltage is 13.1 vdc
 
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jbrianas
well I guess we were in agreement on the batt.
the oem batt was a marine starting batt,
I replaced it with this marine deep cycle batt
Optima BlueTop® Sealed Starting/Deep Cycle AGM Battery Group Size 27 | Product Details | Pep Boys

but I should mention I did get 3 years and few months service out of the oem batt,
I suppose that is not too bad, but ill hope for a bit more out of the new one

one interesting thing of note on the new batt is the static voltage is 13.1 vdc
You are measuring surface charge, which is irrelevant. Put a load on the battery for a minute and it will drop to about 12.6-12.7.

A true RV battery is not labeled "starting" as the plate construction in a true deep cycle is much heavier than a starting battery which has thinner plates to increase plate to acid contact area. Unless they are AGM batteries, they are not sealed. Three years on any starting battery is certainly acceptable.

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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 04:07 PM
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yup its a heavy sucker, 53 lbs, the old battery was maybe 25 lbs

guess that's part of the difference between a starting vs deep cycle batt.


tried it a bit, voltage drops to about 12.8/12.9 with lights on for 10 minutes,
then recovers back to 13/13.1 when lights off (no truck connected)


but I guess I will attempt some better charging times one way or another,gota remember to plug the thing in

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Originally Posted by jbrianas
gota remember to plug the thing in
I suspect those dimming lights after a couple of hours will be a good reminder that you need to plug it in every night.

Be sure that you have a good-quality three-stage automatic charger or you will still be buying batteries more often than you might otherwise.

Spend some money on the charger. It'll pay dividends in the form of reduced battery costs.

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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 11:08 PM
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Yep, get a good quality battery charger--the truck charging is not sufficient for how you are using it.
If you are interested in longer batter life, replace the 10 lights you are using with LEDs--costly, but you will be happy with the battery charge lasting longer. Nothing you can do about the FloJets, they are just going to suck the battery down.
Might also consider 2 6-volts in series...
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Old Aug 11, 2013 | 12:42 PM
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It's a triplite unit says 3 stage charger, the led bulbs would be a great idea, do the make ones to replace automotive style bulbs ?
 
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