Towing Trailer ecoboost
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Towing Trailer ecoboost
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I am looking to upgrade to a bigger trailer. I have a 2012 F150 SC , XTR 4x4. The axle code is L9 so it has 3.5 gears. I looked in the manual and it says it can pull a trailer with a weight of 9600lbs. I thought an ecoboost could pull 11,000 but that is with heavy tow etc only.
I have a 3400 dry trailer now and am looking at a 6200lb dry one that can max weigh 8400. This is under spec for my truck so I should be ok, what do others think and are doing??
I side question for this truck is it has slide out trailer tow mirrors, tow mode on the trans, trans cooler and a class IV hitch. It also has electronic trailer sway control. Also put in the Ford elec brake controller.
What does heavy tow have to give it more weight capacity?
thks for imput
I am looking to upgrade to a bigger trailer. I have a 2012 F150 SC , XTR 4x4. The axle code is L9 so it has 3.5 gears. I looked in the manual and it says it can pull a trailer with a weight of 9600lbs. I thought an ecoboost could pull 11,000 but that is with heavy tow etc only.
I have a 3400 dry trailer now and am looking at a 6200lb dry one that can max weigh 8400. This is under spec for my truck so I should be ok, what do others think and are doing??
I side question for this truck is it has slide out trailer tow mirrors, tow mode on the trans, trans cooler and a class IV hitch. It also has electronic trailer sway control. Also put in the Ford elec brake controller.
What does heavy tow have to give it more weight capacity?
thks for imput
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mostly extra capacity comes from the lower gear and the upgraded cooling package.
max tow comes with an upgraded trans cooler, upgraded radiator, upgraded rear bumper, 3.73 gears, extendable towing mirrors, and electronic brake controller.
max tow comes with an upgraded trans cooler, upgraded radiator, upgraded rear bumper, 3.73 gears, extendable towing mirrors, and electronic brake controller.
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Max Tow is recommended for high trailer weights, but as long as the GVWR and GCWR (gross vehicle weight rating, and gross combined weight rating) are not exceeded, your truck should be fine. Have your hitch and trunion bars properly tuned and there should be no issues. My trailer weighs 7,500 plus pounds with a gross of 9,000 and my truck tows very good and safe.
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Meborder thanks for the reply but the 3.73 and the 3.55 axle show the same weight 9600lbs. to get more capacity the books shows to more rows for max trailer or heavy payload at 11200 and 11100. Are there different springs involved?
Efx4 thanks for the experience feedback I should be under weight and make out ok..
Efx4 thanks for the experience feedback I should be under weight and make out ok..
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Meborder thanks for the reply but the 3.73 and the 3.55 axle show the same weight 9600lbs. to get more capacity the books shows to more rows for max trailer or heavy payload at 11200 and 11100. Are there different springs involved?
Efx4 thanks for the experience feedback I should be under weight and make out ok..
Efx4 thanks for the experience feedback I should be under weight and make out ok..
I would hook 10,000 lbs to your truck without a second thought, you are well equipped for the trailer you are looking at buying.
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There is no higher towing capacity with the higher payload, just the max tow. The springs are identical, as is the transmission cooler. Just like Mike said the radiator is a bit bigger, and the hitch is rated for more weight.
I would hook 10,000 lbs to your truck without a second thought, you are well equipped for the trailer you are looking at buying.
I would hook 10,000 lbs to your truck without a second thought, you are well equipped for the trailer you are looking at buying.
For the record, My trailer has a GVWR of 8200lbs and when loaded it weighs 7500lbs. My truck with the max tow pkg weighs 7540lbs when hooked to the trailer. I'm very close to my GVWR of 7700lbs but well over the OP's GVWR of either 7200lbs or 7350lbs which ever he has? He will also probably be over his rear axle rating as well... As you have proven, these Ecoboosts can tow like a BEAST! But you need more than a strong engine to get you and the family down the road safely..
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I pull a lot and I have a truck with out the max tow (my truck) and one with max tow (works) both have the same springs, wheels, radiator, trans cooler, only difference I can see is gears and the hitch receiver on the work truck is attached to the bumper different and is one class higher in weight ratting!
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I disagree... What is his payload on the truck??? Your giving him the go ahead on the new trailer and you don't even know what the tongue weight is on the trailer he wants to buy?? Your telling him you would hookup a 10,000lb travel trailer to his truck without a second thought??
For the record, My trailer has a GVWR of 8200lbs and when loaded it weighs 7500lbs. My truck with the max tow pkg weighs 7540lbs when hooked to the trailer. I'm very close to my GVWR of 7700lbs but well over the OP's GVWR of either 7200lbs or 7350lbs which ever he has? He will also probably be over his rear axle rating as well... As you have proven, these Ecoboosts can tow like a BEAST! But you need more than a strong engine to get you and the family down the road safely..
For the record, My trailer has a GVWR of 8200lbs and when loaded it weighs 7500lbs. My truck with the max tow pkg weighs 7540lbs when hooked to the trailer. I'm very close to my GVWR of 7700lbs but well over the OP's GVWR of either 7200lbs or 7350lbs which ever he has? He will also probably be over his rear axle rating as well... As you have proven, these Ecoboosts can tow like a BEAST! But you need more than a strong engine to get you and the family down the road safely..
So unless that extra 500 lb tongue weight capacity will make or break the tow, there is nothing the max to package will do for him. The added GVWR is backed up by absolutely no suspension change, so it is meaningless. Of course the steering ratio is a bit slower, but that's about it. This trailer is well within the specs for his truck, the max tow package won't help that.
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EcoKev, he said trailer was 6,200 empty, maybe 8,400 loaded with mess, like we do ours. His truck will safely handle that. Like I said, just drive like you're towing. Be safe, especially for stopping.
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Tongue weight is supposed to be around 10% of the gross trailer weight, so an 8,000 lb trailer should have around 800 lbs tongue weight, which is well within the range of ANY F150. Secondly the rear axle rating is identical, the max tow package does nothing for that. The same can be said for the springs and brakes; there is no difference.
So unless that extra 500 lb tongue weight capacity will make or break the tow, there is nothing the max to package will do for him. The added GVWR is backed up by absolutely no suspension change, so it is meaningless. Of course the steering ratio is a bit slower, but that's about it. This trailer is well within the specs for his truck, the max tow package won't help that.
So unless that extra 500 lb tongue weight capacity will make or break the tow, there is nothing the max to package will do for him. The added GVWR is backed up by absolutely no suspension change, so it is meaningless. Of course the steering ratio is a bit slower, but that's about it. This trailer is well within the specs for his truck, the max tow package won't help that.
Keep in mind I'm only going by the #'s not what his truck should be capable of. I really don't know if there is a difference in the brakes and suspension but the posted ratings are higher on the max tow pkg. I'm almost positive that the RAWR on the regular tow pkg is 3850lbs and I know the max tow is 4050lbs. You have already proven you can tow much more than the truck is rated for so I'm sure his truck isn't going to fall to pieces if he pulls that trailer.
So if you ask me will his truck tow that trailer, yes it certainly will but I'm betting he will be over his trucks GVWR and RAWR with that trailer, especially once he starts loading up that bed with firewood, etc for a week long trip . God forbid if there was ever an accident the first thing his insurance company will look at to try and get out of paying is to see if he was within his trucks specs. You can guarantee that! Good luck with whatever you decide OP!
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Hi
The hitch on the truck says, weight distribution, Tongue wt 1050 tow weight 10500.
the trailer specs
Specifications
The hitch on the truck says, weight distribution, Tongue wt 1050 tow weight 10500.
the trailer specs
Specifications
- Weights
- Unloaded Vehicle Weight (lbs) 6,200
- Dry Hitch Weight (lbs) 765
- Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (lbs) 8,400
- Cargo Carrying Capacity (lbs) 2,200
- Measurements
- Exterior Length 28' 5"
- Exterior Height w/ AC 134"
- Interior Height 81"
- Tank Capacities
- Fresh Water Capacity (gals) includes water heater 86
- Gray Waste Water Capacity (gals) 65
- Black Waste Water Capacity (gals) 32.
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Hi
The hitch on the truck says, weight distribution, Tongue wt 1050 tow weight 10500.
the trailer specs
Specifications
The hitch on the truck says, weight distribution, Tongue wt 1050 tow weight 10500.
the trailer specs
Specifications
- Weights
- Unloaded Vehicle Weight (lbs) 6,200
- Dry Hitch Weight (lbs) 765
- Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (lbs) 8,400
- Cargo Carrying Capacity (lbs) 2,200
- Measurements
- Exterior Length 28' 5"
- Exterior Height w/ AC 134"
- Interior Height 81"
- Tank Capacities
- Fresh Water Capacity (gals) includes water heater 86
- Gray Waste Water Capacity (gals) 65
- Black Waste Water Capacity (gals) 32.
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I know with travel trailers 12% is the average and he said the trailers gvwr was 8400lbs so now your talking around 1000lbs for tongue weight. Can't have much left for payload after that??
Keep in mind I'm only going by the #'s not what his truck should be capable of. I really don't know if there is a difference in the brakes and suspension but the posted ratings are higher on the max tow pkg. I'm almost positive that the RAWR on the regular tow pkg is 3850lbs and I know the max tow is 4050lbs. You have already proven you can tow much more than the truck is rated for so I'm sure his truck isn't going to fall to pieces if he pulls that trailer.
So if you ask me will his truck tow that trailer, yes it certainly will but I'm betting he will be over his trucks GVWR and RAWR with that trailer, especially once he starts loading up that bed with firewood, etc for a week long trip . God forbid if there was ever an accident the first thing his insurance company will look at to try and get out of paying is to see if he was within his trucks specs. You can guarantee that! Good luck with whatever you decide OP!
Keep in mind I'm only going by the #'s not what his truck should be capable of. I really don't know if there is a difference in the brakes and suspension but the posted ratings are higher on the max tow pkg. I'm almost positive that the RAWR on the regular tow pkg is 3850lbs and I know the max tow is 4050lbs. You have already proven you can tow much more than the truck is rated for so I'm sure his truck isn't going to fall to pieces if he pulls that trailer.
So if you ask me will his truck tow that trailer, yes it certainly will but I'm betting he will be over his trucks GVWR and RAWR with that trailer, especially once he starts loading up that bed with firewood, etc for a week long trip . God forbid if there was ever an accident the first thing his insurance company will look at to try and get out of paying is to see if he was within his trucks specs. You can guarantee that! Good luck with whatever you decide OP!
BTW I just noticed that you don't live far from me. I work in Manchester.
