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Old Jul 21, 2013 | 07:58 AM
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Quick towing question, I used my 7-pin for the first time Friday night to tow my buddies Bri-Mar dump trailer to get some firewood from where I'm working. 4 ways worked, couldn't check brake lights since I was by myself, but it is a newer trailer in good shape and he is not one to slack on PM or let his stuff turn to crap so I trust the issue is with my truck. On the way home, closer to dark, I see the marker lights arent working on the fenders. Got home, dumped the logs and the parking lights weren't on either. I called him and he thinks there is a fuse I need to install or check but my manual says nothing about installing a fuse anywhere I can see so the trailer lights work with a 7-pin connector.

The battery charged, the turn signals worked, any suggestions? Thanks in advance, I have to take it back later today. I will post pics as soon as I size them
 
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Old Jul 21, 2013 | 09:24 AM
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I think i've read that there is a package in the glove box that needs to be put in the fuse panel. I havn't gotten around to mine just yet.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2013 | 10:27 AM
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There is a fuse that you need to install. As said above, in your glove box there is a plastic package with the fuse, brake controller pigtail and the instructions on where the fuse goes.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2013 | 10:32 AM
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I don't remember seeing that and I have read that before. I'm out on the bike with the wife but I will check when I get home. Thanks guys
 
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Old Jul 21, 2013 | 10:38 AM
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If you dont have the fuse, I can look at my paperwork and tell you which fuse to buy and here it belongs. They can be bought at any auto parts store.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2013 | 02:37 PM
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The fuse and relay that are supplied loose are for the battery charging circuit and nothing else. Seriously, this comes up like every week.

If your running lights aren't working then you need to check the fuse. If the fuse is good, then you will have to check out the wiring. If the fuse is blown there is a 99.9% chance the trailer wiring is bad.

Don't overcomplicate this.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2013 | 04:02 PM
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The fuse and relay that are supplied loose are for the battery charging circuit and nothing else. Seriously, this comes up like every week.

If your running lights aren't working then you need to check the fuse. If the fuse is good, then you will have to check out the wiring. If the fuse is blown there is a 99.9% chance the trailer wiring is bad.

Don't overcomplicate this.
I'm sure it does and i apologize for being "that guy" I have a package in the glove box, PN AL3T-15A416-AA. 1 high power fuse, black and a smaller one peach color with a clear top and "30" on it. I am going to look at the owners manual again, I'm sure it shows where they go? I assumed since the 4 ways worked everything else would. Oops...
 
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Old Jul 21, 2013 | 04:12 PM
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OK I put the hi power black in #9 trailer tow battery charger. Maybe the battery for the dump trailer was still charged, he thought from sitting it might be dead. I put the 30A in #21 trailer tow battery charge. I will have to hook up the trailer again some night this week to see what the lights are doing. With all that said, I guess if the lights still don't work I can swap #6 (trailer tow park lamp relay) and 9 and see if that's the culprit, then go from there. Thanks guys
 
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Old Jul 21, 2013 | 04:25 PM
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OK I put the hi power black in #9 trailer tow battery charger. Maybe the battery for the dump trailer was still charged, he thought from sitting it might be dead. I put the 30A in #21 trailer tow battery charge. I will have to hook up the trailer again some night this week to see what the lights are doing. With all that said, I guess if the lights still don't work I can swap #6 (trailer tow park lamp relay) and 9 and see if that's the culprit, then go from there. Thanks guys
9 and 21 are for the charging circuit or in my cas the cargo trailer interior lights when the trailer is hooked up to the truck. my lights and brake lights have always worked with out the fuse and relay though

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Found it. #31 trailer park lamp 20A fuse blown. I don't have the low profile fuses but the reg mini 20A fits and the lid closes. Is that acceptable?
 
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FireMe, I was thinking about what you said regarding the trailer wiring. I figure it has to be my father-in-laws trailer with the cobbled together wiring that blew the fuse. I use that sometimes to tow my mower. I will see next time I hook up to it. Thanks again for all the replies
 
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 06:13 AM
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I don't have the low profile fuses but the reg mini 20A fits and the lid closes. Is that acceptable?
Should have no issue using the mini fuse vs the low profile one. As long as you used the correct amps, which it looks like you did.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 11:19 PM
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FireMe, I was thinking about what you said regarding the trailer wiring. I figure it has to be my father-in-laws trailer with the cobbled together wiring that blew the fuse. I use that sometimes to tow my mower. I will see next time I hook up to it. Thanks again for all the replies

Yes, I hate when other people borrow my truck to pull their trailer around as I usually get it back with blown fuses, kind of the opposite of your situation.

Very few trailers seem to make it more than a few years before wiring issues set in either due to cheap workmanship or damage.

Always carry a handful of fuses for the trailer circuits, and yes as stated above you can substitute the tall minis for the short minis as long as the fuse fully engages the terminals. I've seen fuses that didn't make good contact and this results in high resistance and heat damage to the fuse box.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 07:30 AM
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Fimally got some time to post my pics from my heaviest tow so far


 
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 08:34 AM
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Nice Tim! What did you do with the wood?
 
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