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Jun 12, 2003 | 02:23 AM

nemesis

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Hello all,
I am new here to this website and friend of mine said you guys were great. I am trying to pull the timing chain case cover off of my 460. I have removed everything but this dammed damper. I am a bit consfused by it. I have a chiltions book but it's not any help. I have unbolted the pulley, and now I have this damper staring me in the face. There looks to be a big bolt and washer smack in the middle. In the chiltons book it says something about removing a bolt and a waher then using the puller to get the damper off. I try to loosen this bolt and the hole damper moves with it. It feels like I am turing the engine over. So I am not getting anywhere with it.

What am I missing here? I wish I could show you guys a picture, I hope you are able to visualize what I am saying here. The whole reason I am in this mess is because I replaced the water pump and aparently when I took the bolts out to get the water pump off I created a gap in the timing case cover and it caused leaks all over the place! Someone did a **** poor job of sealing it up when they did the timing chain is what I can gather. So anyone been through this? Please lend your advice, I am losing alot of sweat and blood over this. I need my wheels up and running. I really appreciate your time and help!

Sean

Jun 12, 2003 | 02:27 AM

nemesis

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I forgot to mention this is a 76 model. It has the dipstick in the top of the timing case cover and the fuel pump is also mounted on the cover.
Thanks,
Sean

Jun 12, 2003 | 09:22 AM

79f250&70Mustang

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Yes you are turning the engine.

I had the same problem last weekend.
What I ended up doing is to put 2 bolts back into the dampner. then using a big bar/combo wrench to keep the dampner from turning while I loosened the center nut.

This eventually worked for me (I ended up bending the bolts)

HTH
Ben

Jun 12, 2003 | 01:27 PM

nemesis

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Hello,
Well thats one way to do it

I would rather try not to bend any bolts. Does anyone else have any suggestions on how to keep this thing still so I can get the bolt out?

Jun 12, 2003 | 02:09 PM

77'F-150Mudder

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The bolt idea works well. If you use grade 8 bolts (about 2" long) you shouldn't bend them unless the crankshaft bolt is VERY stuck. Short of having a specialized crank holding tool, this is the easiest method if youre working by yourself.

An impact wrench would get the bolt out with ease but crankshafts don't like the hammering action an impact wrench produces.

If you have a helper you could try having them wedge a large straight blade screwdriver somewhere between the bellhousing and the ring gear. If you have an auotmatic that would be pretty easy. Just remove the inspection plate. If you have a manual tranny than it would be more complicated since they don't have inpection covers (at least mine doesn't). In this case you'd have to pull the starter to get access to the ring gear.

Jun 12, 2003 | 02:29 PM

airharley

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ok I am going to break out some old school stuff. Put a breaker bar and socket on the dampener bolt then bump the starter. Yeah you will knock out some teeth if you are standing above it and the breaker bar comes off. Like I said it's old school.

Jun 12, 2003 | 02:33 PM

wtroger

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I use the impact wrench method never had any problems. If it is a standard transmission put it in high gear and set the emergency brake then use your break over to loosen the bolt. If automatic use the bolts and a bar and yes use grade 5 or better bolts. Once you get the bolt out then you need a puller. I use, of all things, a steering wheel puller. You would be better removing the fuel pump it will have to come off to put it back togather.