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Wow, it caused your whole bed to slide back.
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From what I can see on IOWAs DOT page the registerd weight effect the cost of the registration. So that is telling me, you register a truck by weight, like every other state
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I see this question a lot on here and hear a lot of talk about Ford's max rating but I have never heard of the courts persuing it if the truck is registered for the amount of weight it hauls.
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Yeah probably, the nice ladies in the courthouse did it for me and asked what the max towing capacity was
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But they would gladly LOWER the GVWR to 5,000 even though the truck weighs about 7,200 with nothing or nobody in it
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Holy Moley!
Unfortunately in PA the DOT goes by what Ford says and what the door jam says. They would NOT let me raise my GVWR 1 lb over the 8,800 the door jamb/Ford says it was rated for.(even though I made it into a 1 ton dually which is a 10,000lb rating) But I was able to raise the CGVWR to 26k for towing.
But they would gladly LOWER the GVWR to 5,000 even though the truck weighs about 7,200 with nothing or nobody in it
But they would gladly LOWER the GVWR to 5,000 even though the truck weighs about 7,200 with nothing or nobody in it
Here in the Peoples Republic Of Kalifornistan, whatever the door jamb sticker or the owners manual says the CGVWR is, that is it. You cannot 'upgrade' your towing capacity.
I find the idea of upgrading your capacity very wrong. Ford put forth these ratings based on a 'This truck can do this all day long' capacity. Yeah, it might be able to do more, like double the rating, but do you really think you know more than the engineers that designed the truck? Just puttin' that out there for thought.
I've personally done close to a full 2X overload on my truck. 5K worth of bricks in the bed. Was not aware of the true weight until we were off-loading (by hand) and I stopped for a cold water. Found the bill of lading on my buddy's kitchen table. I wasn't on the bumpstops (yet) but it did not handle well at all. Not something I would have taken on the freeway.
Here in Kali, you would need at least a class 6 truck for that 26K rating.
Ray
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Yipe!
Here in the Peoples Republic Of Kalifornistan, whatever the door jamb sticker or the owners manual says the CGVWR is, that is it. You cannot 'upgrade' your towing capacity.
I find the idea of upgrading your capacity very wrong. Ford put forth these ratings based on a 'This truck can do this all day long' capacity. Yeah, it might be able to do more, like double the rating, but do you really think you know more than the engineers that designed the truck? Just puttin' that out there for thought.
I've personally done close to a full 2X overload on my truck. 5K worth of bricks in the bed. Was not aware of the true weight until we were off-loading (by hand) and I stopped for a cold water. Found the bill of lading on my buddy's kitchen table. I wasn't on the bumpstops (yet) but it did not handle well at all. Not something I would have taken on the freeway.
Here in Kali, you would need at least a class 6 truck for that 26K rating.
Ray
Here in the Peoples Republic Of Kalifornistan, whatever the door jamb sticker or the owners manual says the CGVWR is, that is it. You cannot 'upgrade' your towing capacity.
I find the idea of upgrading your capacity very wrong. Ford put forth these ratings based on a 'This truck can do this all day long' capacity. Yeah, it might be able to do more, like double the rating, but do you really think you know more than the engineers that designed the truck? Just puttin' that out there for thought.
I've personally done close to a full 2X overload on my truck. 5K worth of bricks in the bed. Was not aware of the true weight until we were off-loading (by hand) and I stopped for a cold water. Found the bill of lading on my buddy's kitchen table. I wasn't on the bumpstops (yet) but it did not handle well at all. Not something I would have taken on the freeway.
Here in Kali, you would need at least a class 6 truck for that 26K rating.
Ray
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According to the owners manual, I'm good to go @ 18,500 CGVWR. I'm not sure I would try it, but that is what the manual says.
Ray
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that's why I made that comment earlier about having the owners manual to back up a decision in Kali to tow an obviously heavy load that a constable might perceive as being too heavy.
According to the owners manual, I'm good to go @ 18,500 CGVWR. I'm not sure I would try it, but that is what the manual says.
Ray
According to the owners manual, I'm good to go @ 18,500 CGVWR. I'm not sure I would try it, but that is what the manual says.
Ray
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From: mid-nowhere AZ desert
I tried to move to Oregon, but was told by a prospective landlord that they didn't like or want Cal people there (when he saw my license plate) and wouldn't rent to me.
So I kept going and moved to Washington instead. The lumber yard where I bought materials had a yard man who regurlarly wore a shirt that said
"Don't Californicate Washington"
Took about 15 years, but they managed to do it anyway. Then I moved to AZ.
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From: Central Indiana
Dispelling some myths
The owners manual for 1997 F250HD/F350 sez;
4X4 reg cab / 460 / E4OD / 4:10 gears (my truck)
18,500 combined, 12,500 trailer weight.
Same truck, only 460 / stick / 4.10 gears
16,000 combined, 10,500 trailer weight.
Same truck, only 460 / stick / 3.55 gears
12,000 combined, 6,500 trailer weight.
Same truck, only 7.3 / stick / 3:55 gears
16,000 combined, 10,100 trailer weight.
Same truck, 7.3 / stick / 4.10 gears
20,000 combined, 14,000 trailer weight.
F350 numbers are pretty much identical, give or take a few hundred pounds.
The E4OD-equipped trucks seem to have a higher rating in most cases. So if you have the 4.10 gears, your compression ignition truck has a higher towing rating than my gasser.
You might remember the first GM trucks with an Oldsmobile-based 350 diesel had no towing rating. The manual and the window sticker both said, this vehicle cannot tow without voiding the warranty! My brother-in-law bought one new, U-Haul wouldn't even put a hitch on it, citing what the manual said.
Ray
