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Old May 31, 2013 | 09:14 PM
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my E-150 damaged today

Honda CRV pulled out in front of me today. This may be the end.

Airbags blew. Probably totaled. Got it back going but can't turn left due to the bumper. Gonna tie it off to a tree this weekend and try and pull the bumper out. Steering wheel no longer straight but it tracks straight. The whole front is pushed back slightly. However the fan didn't get into the radiator. The air bag deployment damaged the horn switch so I had to cut a wire there. Cut out the airbag and duct taped the steering wheel back together.

Depends on what her insurance company offers me but I may have to give it up. Gotta face reality as I don't use it anymore for going out of town unless one of my kids is using the minivan I have. The 12-13 mpg has always bothered me so this may be my last full size van.


 
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Old May 31, 2013 | 09:54 PM
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What a shame, not many real conversion vans left out there anymore!
 
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Old May 31, 2013 | 10:06 PM
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They'd wanna repair mine, I'm hitting them for extra because I can't just replace it, my wheelchair stuff has to be transferred, which is about $4000 more, if my stuff wasn't damaged. You have to stay on them, if it was be, I'd go consult an attorney, this is because I've had a few, not my fault, and if you sit waiting on the ins company when not your fault, you'll get burnt!
 
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Old Jun 1, 2013 | 04:57 AM
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Given the year of your E150 it might be a "total loss" as far as the insurance company goes----I've had an earlier E150 totaled out for a $1200 towing company damage claim. After a $3500 settlement from their insurance company I bought it back for like $200----and drove it another 4 years trouble free.

Someone willing to put work and a bit of money into repairing your E150 would have a good deal---have to love working on crashed vans though.

Hope you fare well in all this 2KFord2K---what's in line to replace it?
 
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Old Jun 1, 2013 | 09:06 AM
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Definitely sad. My '02 E150 conversion is my "rock" vehicle but with the 4.6 has gotten about 16 mpg as a lifetime average. Not much worse than some minivans, but mine is likely my last full size van, in part because my wife will be retiring in the next year and it will be time to travel--and her knees give her problems sitting in the passenger seat. Still, it may last anothe 10 years.

I might look at one of the new gen Transits, but I don't like paying huge prices.

Interesting to see your conversion van with fancy paint on it--mine is stark white with factory windows all round (which I like for stealth and simplicity). Has a couple "GT" stickers on it.

Good luck, and a toast to your old faithful box,
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 11:28 AM
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and about airbags

Jayco apparently had it painted like that. If I do fix it, someone will have to do the fender. I don't do body work. I'll get one that's all white and then put flames on both sides or something maybe.

A possible replacement wouldn't be full size. None of my 3 kid drivers really care for it. My 20 year old daughter doesn't mind it much, but they all prefer the 2000 Chrysler T&C I bought last year to replace my 91 Caravan. I think, oh, a minivan would be nice, but then I had my niece's 2001 Grand Am for a while when I was working on it, and I loved getting back into a small car.

I at least drove it to work today. I got the bumper pulled out and pulled a pickup headlight and turn signal but I have to come up with a mount since that's all gone.

So if it gets to where I keep it, and I decide to replace the airbags, I found them online for $130 with module. Do I have to replace the module too? I haven't found that out yet. Once tripped does everything reset? Right now the airbag light is on and my OBDII thing doesn't show anything to clear, and I tried to erase it anyway, and it's still on.

Alignment will have to be done too because the wheel is at 45°. The van tracks straight though. Surprised. I can let go of the wheel and it doesn't pull. Maybe it knocked it back in some because I could tell before when I turned, that it needed an alignment.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 10:19 PM
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Any collision you can walk away from w/o scratch is OK.

What did the Honda CRV look like?
 
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 05:34 AM
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Your airbag dash light might still be on due the bumper sensors being affected in the crash. I'm not sure what sort of OBD-II scanner would detect airbag issues but most of us probably don't own one of them. Most likely any thrown thrown airbag code can't be cancelled until its error has been fixed, much like the ABS system.

Most salvage airbag sets include the module for some reason---its not a bad idea to replace everything you can in that whole system after a crash. If you have the seat belt pre-tensioning devices might wanna check those too--not sure what year they were first added.

If you can find the airbags as a set along with the module for $130 that's a good deal. Shipping can be an issue since they're "explosive devices" that tend to need special labeling and handling, UPS was once upon a time the only carrier who'd accept them. Double check this though---not sure what the current situation is for shipping those things.

At least its still driveable and everyone walked away----indeed a good day!
 
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JWA
Your airbag dash light might still be on due the bumper sensors being affected in the crash. I'm not sure what sort of OBD-II scanner would detect airbag issues but most of us probably don't own one of them. Most likely any thrown thrown airbag code can't be cancelled until its error has been fixed, much like the ABS system.
This is correct, the airbags use B(body)-codes rather than the more common P(powertrain)-codes that we hear about most times. The overwhelming majority of scan tools won't read these codes, and it takes something like an AutoEnginuity scan tool to read these codes.

And I don't subscribe to the van shop manual, but this present in my Excursion manual:

THE ECS MODULE MUST BE REPLACED IF THE AIR BAG MODULES HAVE DEPLOYED
I'd almost bet money that the E-vans use a similar system.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 12:24 PM
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OK. As far as shipping, the ones for $130 are nearby so i can pick them up.

I noticed there's a crash sensor on the front behind the grill but I think it's OK as the damage isn't that high.

And the CR/V is totaled for sure. It was a 97. Left front suspension has to be shot with the tire now at a 45° angle. Air bags went on it too. She walked away without a scratch too as I was trying to keep from hitting the driver's door, with the little time I had to decide. The other side of me was a pole and I really don't know how I managed not to hit it. Pretty sure she was texting cause I watched her the whole way into her vehicle and she was looking down and never looked up to even see me. I don't believe she ever even hit her brakes. I just couldn't believe she kept going and going.

I got the crash report and it does say it was her fault and my insurance company did confirm she has insurance, so yay there.

I put a replacement headlight and turn light in it yesterday so I can be legal. Duct tape is the mount as there's nothing left to mount it to. The "bucket" to mount them in goes all the way across the front so I didn't bother replacing that, until I get the offer from the other insurance company.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2013 | 03:52 PM
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FINALLY her insurance company paid. I had to get a lawyer, and then they seemed to be more compliant. I got $3500 and kept my van. Just had the front end aligned today, and I'm heading to the junk yard tomorrow to pull parts for it: mainly the grille header since I am really tired of duct taping the lights back on every morning, and sometimes afternoon.

I had my eye on a 2000 Expedition Eddie Bauer 4wd that had 170k on it and the same engine that I found on Sunday, but when I went back on Monday, it was sold already. The other few Expeditions I could buy with the insurance money were pretty much crap. That one I looked at was priced $3000 and had every option from that year. So I decided to fix the van.

I now have an injury lawsuit waiting (since I was forced to get a lawyer anyway) so if something comes out of that in the meantime, I still may replace the van.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 06:53 AM
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Hoping your personal injury issue isn't too severe----good that you've engaged an attorney especially if the ins company want to be jerks about it all.

It sucks that your van now requires you to make the repairs yourself but at least you know the van's history and reliability. Another upside is you've got a wide range of model years to chose from----from '92 to at least 2000 almost all the sheet metal is direct swaps.

Best of luck in all this!
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 01:31 PM
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I got the bumper, or close enough. It's a little different but the mount is the same. Its from a 97. It's solid whereas my original has a large oval in the middle. I also got the 97's fender which is supposed to fit. It has a little rust at the very bottom by the kick panel and it's brown so I'll have to sand and paint it. Not something I look forward to. I could not find a header panel or grille though.

I'm wondering if the header panel is the same if it has composite headlights instead of sealed beam. LMC vans shows just one header panel for the 00 van so I'll have to call them to see if it works for composite. If they are the same then bummer, because the one at LKQ had the header panel, but it was sealed beams. I would assume the must be different but maybe the sealed beams have an insert that makes it fit like a composite. not sure there. On car dash parts.com they don't ask if it's composite or sealed either. However it does ask if the grille is painted or chrome, and that shouldn't make a difference for the header panel since it should be plastic and all black.

One thing I didn't know about the attorney was that he didn't take a cut from the property damage. he only gets his cut from the personal injury. I guess that's standard. I can't discuss anything about the injury though as per his instructions. He says the other side can request any postings and emails I've made about the injury. The airbag did a good job I can say. While my van took it like a champ, hardly veering off it's path when it hit, it was still quite a violent slam forward. Maybe it did scramble my brains after all.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 01:35 PM
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Since the alignment, the steering wheel is left about 30°. Shouldn't they have straightened that in alignment? It was 45° right before alignment. Still better since it's not right where the turn signal deactivates as it was before.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 01:49 PM
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Hope you wasn't too hurt after that.

I wouldn't get expedition with 5.4L cause I only get 14-15 in town traffic. I wish I could find e150 with 4.6L cause I had one before it alway average 18-20 mpg in city/hwy. I end got expedition because I couldn't find E150 with 4.6L that isn't rot bucket or had 250K or more miles.
 
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