New TOYO AT2 sizes
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New TOYO AT2 sizes
TOYO is now listing more sizes available for AT2, including a 295/70R18 that specs at 34.3" tall and 11.8" wide. Listed with the same load capacity of the 285/75R18 @ 4080.
Before anybody pulls the trigger be aware that the new sizes have an extra designation of "XT", and list 1/32 LESS tread than the original extreme sizes.
Does anyone have any information on these new sizes?
A few distributors have mentioned that all AT2's are going to extreme styling, and maybe these are those?
I'd really like to know where the new sizes are being made for starters. And then why the differences in tread depth.
Could be just what you're looking for, just in time for some Memorial day savings.
Here's a link to TOYO's AT2 page: Open Country A/T II | Toyo Tires
Here's the new sizes I noticed:
LT295/70R18 129/126S E/10 XT
LT295/55R20 123/120S E/10 XT
LT295/60R20 126/123S E/10 XT
LT295/65R20 129/126S E/10 XT
Might be more, but these jumped out at me.
MOJoWales
Before anybody pulls the trigger be aware that the new sizes have an extra designation of "XT", and list 1/32 LESS tread than the original extreme sizes.
Does anyone have any information on these new sizes?
A few distributors have mentioned that all AT2's are going to extreme styling, and maybe these are those?
I'd really like to know where the new sizes are being made for starters. And then why the differences in tread depth.
Could be just what you're looking for, just in time for some Memorial day savings.
Here's a link to TOYO's AT2 page: Open Country A/T II | Toyo Tires
Here's the new sizes I noticed:
LT295/70R18 129/126S E/10 XT
LT295/55R20 123/120S E/10 XT
LT295/60R20 126/123S E/10 XT
LT295/65R20 129/126S E/10 XT
Might be more, but these jumped out at me.
MOJoWales
Last edited by MoJoWales; 05-21-2013 at 01:13 AM. Reason: added sizes
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I'm going to to call about these over lunch today.
Are these new 295/*** series made here with the other extremes, other domestic, or imported?
What is the difference in thread depth?
Millage warranty?
Why the differences but same load ratings?
Want to know something else, post it up. I'll try to get information from TOYO or another regional distributor.
Are these new 295/*** series made here with the other extremes, other domestic, or imported?
What is the difference in thread depth?
Millage warranty?
Why the differences but same load ratings?
Want to know something else, post it up. I'll try to get information from TOYO or another regional distributor.
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From TOYO:
These are new molds for the same specs as the extreme sizes already available. The "XT" designation should be applied to all extreme styles, but they haven't updated the website yet. They are made in the US but they qualified that some could come from Japan. The new 295 series have the 50,000 mile LT/floatation warranty. The 1/32 tread difference is due to the new molding. They are in production with limited availability. They state that there has been overwhelming demand for the new AT2 series so it might take awhile for inventory to catch up.
I called the two largest national distributors that I know:
One had them in the system as back-ordered. The other didn't have them in their system. Both state that the usual best case for back-ordered is around 60 days.
My local tire guy checked at the Midwest regional distributor and showed no stock available.
Looks like a waiting game for now. I would recommend that if you are searching for a particular size to get the TOYO product code off their website before talking to anyone. One of the distributors had to look it up by the code when they didn't have the size in their system.
MOJoWales
These are new molds for the same specs as the extreme sizes already available. The "XT" designation should be applied to all extreme styles, but they haven't updated the website yet. They are made in the US but they qualified that some could come from Japan. The new 295 series have the 50,000 mile LT/floatation warranty. The 1/32 tread difference is due to the new molding. They are in production with limited availability. They state that there has been overwhelming demand for the new AT2 series so it might take awhile for inventory to catch up.
I called the two largest national distributors that I know:
One had them in the system as back-ordered. The other didn't have them in their system. Both state that the usual best case for back-ordered is around 60 days.
My local tire guy checked at the Midwest regional distributor and showed no stock available.
Looks like a waiting game for now. I would recommend that if you are searching for a particular size to get the TOYO product code off their website before talking to anyone. One of the distributors had to look it up by the code when they didn't have the size in their system.
MOJoWales
Last edited by MoJoWales; 05-21-2013 at 03:41 PM. Reason: XT info.
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If I told my wife that, she'd return a comment something like, "Honey, how will slowing you down quiet the tire noise?"
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If I told my wife that, she'd return a comment something like, "Honey, how will slowing you down quiet the tire noise?"
I'm going to wait on the 295/70R18's to come back in stock. The weight savings versus the 12.50's combined with the added load rating fits my needs while giving me the slightly wider look I want.
MOJoWales
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The 295's are the new sizes.
Even the big national distributors had some confusion about these new sizes. They ARE available for order fulfillment, even if the warehouses don't have/show them stocked. They can be ordered through TOYO with the product number from their website, linked above. To be clear, I have verified this with TOYO.
My local tire shop called and pushed the issue with the regional warehouse for me. Once they called in the product number for the 295/70R18's everyone was on the same page. ETA is two weeks from order.
Good luck,
MOJoWales
Even the big national distributors had some confusion about these new sizes. They ARE available for order fulfillment, even if the warehouses don't have/show them stocked. They can be ordered through TOYO with the product number from their website, linked above. To be clear, I have verified this with TOYO.
My local tire shop called and pushed the issue with the regional warehouse for me. Once they called in the product number for the 295/70R18's everyone was on the same page. ETA is two weeks from order.
Good luck,
MOJoWales
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Reset switch hit...Which 18" tire now? 295/70 or 285/75
Guys,
I was just about ready to pull the trigger on the 285/75R18 knowing that would be 1.5" taller than stock, but I wanted the traction and the 4080 lb load rating for towing my 5th wheel. Now the AT2 debuts in 295/70R18 with the same beefy 4080 load rating and a 1/2 inch shorter than the 285/75. I like the shorter tire/bed height of the 295 and speedo should now be dead on, but is a 295 tire safe for max rated towing on my factory 8" rims??? 8" is within the rim size range for both, but the sweet spot for the 285/75 was 8" and the 295 is 8.5". Now in a quandary...
If you stuck with factory rims and towed, which would you go with and why?
Thanks,
Kurt
I was just about ready to pull the trigger on the 285/75R18 knowing that would be 1.5" taller than stock, but I wanted the traction and the 4080 lb load rating for towing my 5th wheel. Now the AT2 debuts in 295/70R18 with the same beefy 4080 load rating and a 1/2 inch shorter than the 285/75. I like the shorter tire/bed height of the 295 and speedo should now be dead on, but is a 295 tire safe for max rated towing on my factory 8" rims??? 8" is within the rim size range for both, but the sweet spot for the 285/75 was 8" and the 295 is 8.5". Now in a quandary...
If you stuck with factory rims and towed, which would you go with and why?
Thanks,
Kurt
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Guys,
I was just about ready to pull the trigger on the 285/75R18 knowing that would be 1.5" taller than stock, but I wanted the traction and the 4080 lb load rating for towing my 5th wheel. Now the AT2 debuts in 295/70R18 with the same beefy 4080 load rating and a 1/2 inch shorter than the 285/75. I like the shorter tire/bed height of the 295 and speedo should now be dead on, but is a 295 tire safe for max rated towing on my factory 8" rims??? 8" is within the rim size range for both, but the sweet spot for the 285/75 was 8" and the 295 is 8.5". Now in a quandary...
If you stuck with factory rims and towed, which would you go with and why?
Thanks,
Kurt
I was just about ready to pull the trigger on the 285/75R18 knowing that would be 1.5" taller than stock, but I wanted the traction and the 4080 lb load rating for towing my 5th wheel. Now the AT2 debuts in 295/70R18 with the same beefy 4080 load rating and a 1/2 inch shorter than the 285/75. I like the shorter tire/bed height of the 295 and speedo should now be dead on, but is a 295 tire safe for max rated towing on my factory 8" rims??? 8" is within the rim size range for both, but the sweet spot for the 285/75 was 8" and the 295 is 8.5". Now in a quandary...
If you stuck with factory rims and towed, which would you go with and why?
Thanks,
Kurt
I don't tow with my 05 F250 often, but when I do I can get close to the maximum capacity. I'm currently running Goodyear Wrangler Pro grade Kevlar in 285/65R18. They handle the weight and are excellent loaded on gravel roads, but are hard to keep perfectly balanced. I lifted my truck 2.5" to get progressive coil springs and better control over caster adjustment and have been looking at slightly taller tires since.
I focused on these new AT2's owing to the reported mileage and ease of balancing. I was trying to talk myself into new wheels and the 35X12.5R18 just for looks, but the pragmatist in me knew the 285/75R18 on factory 18" wheels were the smart choice for my needs. I still think the 12.5" wide tires look excellent on the SuperDuty's I've seen them on, but they just don't fit my needs of load rating, mileage, and traction.
I was waiting for Memorial weekend to order the 285's when I noticed the new 295's on TOYO's website. Perfect.
The 295 series is .5" wider than the 285 series so there will be .25" more width per side of each tire. This will result in a very small increase in sidewall flex at the contact patch which will lead to slightly more heat buildup. But, on a stock 8" wide wheel I wouldn't hesitate to trust the max PSI load rating even though it is 1/2" narrower than the optimum recommendation. My experience with these new AT2's is non-existent, but my past dealings with manufacturer recommendations suggest that there is a bit of safety margin factored in, which I believe this tire is well within on a 8" wheel for towing. I would think the maximum axle load ratings will come into play before any theoretical compromise on these tire load ratings. Also, I have never heard of the factory 18" forged wheels failing (some people have had factory 20" wheels crack at the lip) so you should be good to go with the wheel weight ratings as well as having the factory hubcentric benefit.
So, I think you are really looking at whether or not you want slightly taller (285), or slightly wider (295).
Mine will be well worked on factory 18"s when they get mounted.
MOJoWales
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