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Old May 4, 2013 | 06:50 PM
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Hey guys, Have a 2000 ex 7.3 and a couple of days ago I had the batteries die on me. Quick boost and it fired right up, drove it around for the rest of the day no issues at all. Yesterday I had a really hard time with the first start of the day, turned over slowly, but caught itself and fired up. I plugged in my OBDII adapter and fired up Torque on my phone and saw that I had 14.3 V about 30 seconds after the truck started. Took my father to pick up his car about 10 mins away, shut the truck off, and again, it turned over slow, was a hard start. Drove it around for about 45 mins after that and everything seemed great. Today it won't even start...the WTS light comes on, everything sounds and seems normal, then when I go to start the truck it just "clicks"...Turn the headlights on and try to start it, and the lights don't even dim. So I checked and cleaned the battery cables and the starter cable...still no start. Anybody have any advice on what it might be? I'm hoping that its a ground somewhere but wouldn't know where to being looking...any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Old May 4, 2013 | 08:07 PM
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Quick question,how old are the batteries?
 
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Old May 4, 2013 | 08:09 PM
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One is about 6 months, the other is going on 12 months, load tested the batteries, they seem to check out okay
 
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Old May 4, 2013 | 08:11 PM
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You have two main grounds, one from each battery. If not grounds or batteries, I suspect starter.
 
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Old May 4, 2013 | 08:17 PM
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^^^ sounds like starter to me also . Ck grounds and solenoid also .
 
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Old May 4, 2013 | 09:09 PM
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Start with the solenoid, then the starter. MUCH cheaper
 
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Old May 4, 2013 | 09:46 PM
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Give the starter a couple love taps...

Can't you also check the solenoid by putting the key to the on position and using a screwdriver to jump the poles on the solenoid? or am I thinking the relay...
 
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Old May 4, 2013 | 10:55 PM
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With your Diesel over 10 years old for giggles check the 3 wire plug on top of the alternator,the ends going into the connector do dry out over time where the insulation turns to dust and could present a alternator output issue in the near future.

If you have the original starter in the X,I might look into replacing it,not sure if it could be load tested at say Autozone or other auto parts stores but it'd be worth a check

I've done the alternator top connector and starter a couple years back.

On the Diesels I've followed the rule replace the batteries in pairs, whether my batteries are good or bad at 36 months I replace em under warranty,hot Arizona summers tears batteries up!
 
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Old May 5, 2013 | 08:15 AM
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Thanks for all of the replies guys. I would have replaced the batteries in pairs, but I managed get get a brand new single one that fell off of a truck, wasn't about to complain that there wasn't a second...haha.

I have replaced the alt. back in November, all of the connectors seemed good when I changed them, but I will go back over all of the connections (easy job) After that, gonna tackle the battery grounds. I'll report back with my findings. Thanks for all the help guys
 
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Old May 5, 2013 | 10:41 AM
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14.4 volts with a running motor just means your alternator is working; it doesn't mean your batteries are are good. Occam's razor says the simplest is usually right: have your batts been load tested? If not, then that's probably your problem. Hard starts when stopped for several hours most often means one or both batteries are failing. Good luck with it.
 
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Old May 5, 2013 | 11:27 AM
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It sounds like battery(s) especially when it starts with jump start and 14+ volts once running (alt working). You can also try starting with door open and watch dome lights or turn on headlights and see if you get clic-clic-clic (batt) Vs. Just one clic (which could be starter)
 
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Old May 6, 2013 | 07:31 AM
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Thanks for all of your help guys. After doing some troubleshooting yesterday afternoon i've determined it is my starter. Now, I went online looking for starters, and I found 2 and 3 bolt starters. I currently have a three bolt starter, would there be any issue with switching over to the 2 bolt starter?
 
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Old May 6, 2013 | 08:38 AM
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I have a 2 bolt starter on my Diesel.
 
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Old May 6, 2013 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by CHPMustang
With your Diesel over 10 years old for giggles check the 3 wire plug on top of the alternator,the ends going into the connector do dry out over time where the insulation turns to dust and could present a alternator output issue in the near future.

If you have the original starter in the X,I might look into replacing it,not sure if it could be load tested at say Autozone or other auto parts stores but it'd be worth a check

I've done the alternator top connector and starter a couple years back.

On the Diesels I've followed the rule replace the batteries in pairs, whether my batteries are good or bad at 36 months I replace em under warranty,hot Arizona summers tears batteries up!
I don't think I've had any aftermarket batteries last more than 3 years in AZ. I think the original battery on my 03 mustang held up longer .. but none other made it that far.
Most I return within warranty timeframe. AZ must be a money losing business for battery makers. Even costco lowered their battery warranties now.
 
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Old May 6, 2013 | 10:33 AM
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A little off Dave's topic but when I was last in the Santan Costco the battery guy there told me that a few Diesel owners come in to warranty their batteries every 2-3 years, extreme heat and cold are a bear on batteries for sure!

Back to the topic
 
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