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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 08:05 PM
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C-Series Master Cylinders

Was the C-series every updated to use dual circuit master cylinders during its production run? If so, when did it happen and what was changed (ie; mounting brackets, pedals, vacuum booster, etc)?

What would be the part number for the master cylinders? Single and/or dual. Rebuild kit part numbers?

I think y'all can figure where I'm going with this inquiry...
 
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Old May 1, 2013 | 02:33 PM
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The master attached directly to the pedal feeds a hydrovac** power assist device mounted on the frame of the truck. Making a dual system out of this would entail re-engineering the brakes and a different booster.

Interesting info regarding the C brakes here--good luck with it:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...h-systems.html
 

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Old May 1, 2013 | 05:35 PM
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I have several brochures for the mid eighties C series, and yes, they do have a dual circuit hydraulic braking circuit.

They also list disk front brakes as part of this brake setup.

As to other changes, I have can't help you there, as I have yet to find a later C series to inspect in person that was not equipped with air brakes.


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Old May 1, 2013 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
Interesting info regarding the C brakes here--good luck with it:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...h-systems.html
Yeah, that's a thread I started shortly after we got the truck.

I'm aware of how the single circuit system would work, but given the improved safety of a dual circuit system, I was wondering if the C-series were ever re-engineered to use them. I've seen master cylinders listed on eBay for the C600 that are dual circuit, but the accuracy of such types of auctions are frequently seem to be incorrect and use generic information.

It's also interesting to hear that they were also switched over to use disks in the front.

dmanlyr, what years in the 80's are your brochures from?

I wonder how adaptable or interchangeable the later parts are with the earlier trucks with some minimal work (ie; bracket fabrication). Anyone know if they'd be the same as or similar to those used on the F-series counterparts?
 
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Old May 1, 2013 | 09:45 PM
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1985 and 1987. I should probably scan them and post them as I have done some others.

It was interesting to find out about the disk brakes to me as well. I was actually trying to find out if Ford ever put integral power steering on these trucks, and lacking later model parts or service manuals, I bought a few later brochures to look at.

Sometimes you have to be careful with people, they tend to try and shorten things up or not properly research what they are selling. A good example is in the case of the 80's C6000, C7000 and C8000's. I cannot count the times when people have stuff listed on ebay as fitting these trucks, when in truth they are for the CF6000, CF7000 and CF8000's which are totally different trucks other than the blue oval. Yes, one letter or one numeral can make a difference!

Even Napa has confused these two distinctly different series of trucks.

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Old May 1, 2013 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by itslow
Yeah, that's a thread I started shortly after we got the truck. ...............................
Wow, I may need a minder with observation skills like that......
 
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Old May 1, 2013 | 11:10 PM
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I scanned the 85 brochure but gig not post it right as I only wanted the links, not the pictures to show up directly.

I also scanned a interesting circa 85 Ford C series verses the Imports "hotline" report.

It and other C series, as well as some limited older F series and soon to be HT series stuff can be found on my photobucket account - same user name of "dmanlyr"

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Old May 1, 2013 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
Wow, I may need a minder with observation skills like that......
Happens with age - in my case sometimes I review old posts, and am surprised at what I posted years ago!

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Ok. Another question that probably doesn't have an easy answer short of dismantling the master cylinders on the truck.

What are the bore sizes on both the brake and clutch master cylinders?
 
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