Tool preference?
#16
Most of my hand tools are Snap On , some Mack and Cornwell . Craftsman that I have had since the 80's .I use to have a lot of Matco tools . But , after they dropped my area about 8 years ago , I traded most off to Snap On and Mac . Matco makes , or made , great tools . I look for quality ,warranty , and service ! That is why I buy Snap On and Mac . If I have to drive 80 miles to get something replaced , or mail it and wait a week , It Aint Worth It ! If Matco Is in your area and ain't planning on leaving , like they did my area , I would consider them . If doing it for a living like me , quality and service count .
#17
Ya know JWC as Snap On, Mac, Matco and Cornwell begin to feel the crush of losing business to online outlets they've all become far more open to dealing with us who use tools more in the professional direction.
I've ordered a few things from both Snap On and Cornwell, got free shipping and not a bit of hesitation to sell regardless who covered my home base. (I'm a 100% mobile business so don't have a regular route guy.)
I'm with you though the cost of the tool is far less significant to the company's ability and desire to support me after the sale. I've not yet been disappointed in paying top dollar for a good or best tool. I tend to lose more of them than ever break any!
I've ordered a few things from both Snap On and Cornwell, got free shipping and not a bit of hesitation to sell regardless who covered my home base. (I'm a 100% mobile business so don't have a regular route guy.)
I'm with you though the cost of the tool is far less significant to the company's ability and desire to support me after the sale. I've not yet been disappointed in paying top dollar for a good or best tool. I tend to lose more of them than ever break any!
#18
" Cost of the tool " ... I have been doing this for a bit . I learned years ago , cheep tools = loss of production . I do not get paid by the hour . I get paid by the job . Cheep tools are not good in my line of work .I look for the best I can get . I guard them well . They are my living . 9K for a Scan Tool . More thousands of $ worth of tools than I care to think about . That is why I look for support , service , And quality .If my Modis drops a key , or a link cord fails , I can count on my Snap On rep to come to me .Even on an off day I can reach him and get a replacement .
#19
Most of my hand tools are Snap-On. I do have a couple sets of MAC ratchet wrenches that i actually prefer over my Snap-On sets. However in my trucks i only carry cheap tools, my hands have a bad tendancy of losing things.
As far as air tools are concerned, most all of mine are Ingersoll Rand. I have had very good luck with them.
When it comes to power tools, its either Milwaukee or DeWalt. My electric tools are a combination of both, but my cordless tools are strictly DeWalt 18V, as i like the idea of having the same batteries and chargers for all of them.
Bryce
As far as air tools are concerned, most all of mine are Ingersoll Rand. I have had very good luck with them.
When it comes to power tools, its either Milwaukee or DeWalt. My electric tools are a combination of both, but my cordless tools are strictly DeWalt 18V, as i like the idea of having the same batteries and chargers for all of them.
Bryce
#20
Be careful with the new stuff from Mac and Matco some of their stuff is Taiwan made now. Snap On's Bluepoint line has been Taiwan for years but Bluepoint is not Snap On, it is sold by Snap On. Huge difference there. I have some Taiwan tools that are decent quality(Gearwrench for example) but I would not pay a premium for them.
#21
I have tools from everybody. I deal with Snap-On mostly because their truck is the one that comes by. The dealer tries hard to please and sometimes will cut a deal, Can't ask for more. The Blue Point only signifies "not made by the Snap On company". Not necessarily made in Taiwan. For instance their hydraulic flaring tool is made and also sold by Mastercool. Nice either way. The Snap-On version you can make payments on and see a guy pretty regular who can hook you up with service parts for the tool too.
I liked Mac OK. They have some stuff others don't (same as everybody). But the local guy didn't carry much inventory and instead fooled with pocket knives and stuff. When he wandered off and didn't return nobody missed him much.
We had a good Cornwell guy, bought lots of his stuff. He had an accident and we miss him. Another guy we got to expand his territory a bit to take over but he turned into a flake and then an insurance salesman.
I haven't seen a Matco guy in years. Years ago I had one that was a real wheeler dealer. He'd trade and discount all kinds of stuff. Couldn't help but deal with him.
Sears has been my one solid over the years. No matter where I was, there was a Sears somewhere where I could trade in my broken stuff. Always wished they carried more and more better stuff. Second to them I could always find a Snap-On guy somewhere. Or find out where he stopped.
I liked Mac OK. They have some stuff others don't (same as everybody). But the local guy didn't carry much inventory and instead fooled with pocket knives and stuff. When he wandered off and didn't return nobody missed him much.
We had a good Cornwell guy, bought lots of his stuff. He had an accident and we miss him. Another guy we got to expand his territory a bit to take over but he turned into a flake and then an insurance salesman.
I haven't seen a Matco guy in years. Years ago I had one that was a real wheeler dealer. He'd trade and discount all kinds of stuff. Couldn't help but deal with him.
Sears has been my one solid over the years. No matter where I was, there was a Sears somewhere where I could trade in my broken stuff. Always wished they carried more and more better stuff. Second to them I could always find a Snap-On guy somewhere. Or find out where he stopped.
#22
" Cost of the tool " ... I have been doing this for a bit . I learned years ago , cheep tools = loss of production . I do not get paid by the hour . I get paid by the job . Cheep tools are not good in my line of work .I look for the best I can get . I guard them well . They are my living . 9K for a Scan Tool . More thousands of $ worth of tools than I care to think about . That is why I look for support , service , And quality .If my Modis drops a key , or a link cord fails , I can count on my Snap On rep to come to me .Even on an off day I can reach him and get a replacement .
#23
My Snap On rep is the same way , he knows what I own . Heck I have Snap On tools he has never seen ! ( they are older then he is ) . He has always done well since he took over my area .He has also told me I would not be satisfied with a tool . It also helps that he is my friends son in law !
#24
Posted a few weeks ago on this thread and I have something to add...
As I said, my air tools are cheap. Alltrade and Husky. Well last Thursday I was in brakes class and a truck came in with some issues in the rear. One of the lug nuts in the rear had been threaded wrong by a previous shop and it was totally stuck. Let someone borrow my Husky impact to put on it, hammered for about 20 seconds, and it sheared the stud right in two. Made the job easy. When we were done we just pressed in a new stud.
Just an experience I had. Pretty much everyone, including me, was surprised that my cheap impact had the power to shear that stud in half. It's been pretty good for me so far.
As I said, my air tools are cheap. Alltrade and Husky. Well last Thursday I was in brakes class and a truck came in with some issues in the rear. One of the lug nuts in the rear had been threaded wrong by a previous shop and it was totally stuck. Let someone borrow my Husky impact to put on it, hammered for about 20 seconds, and it sheared the stud right in two. Made the job easy. When we were done we just pressed in a new stud.
Just an experience I had. Pretty much everyone, including me, was surprised that my cheap impact had the power to shear that stud in half. It's been pretty good for me so far.
#25
#26
I'm not sure who makes them, but I've been pleasantly surprised by the power of this one. Really happy with it so far. Glad its doing well so far because there's no way I could afford a Snap-on one any time soon. Maybe a Matco one with my student discount (50% off!!!).
#27
I am a Craftsman guy.
1. I can go into any Sears in the country and exchange a broken hand tool for a new one, free. With the guys that come around in trucks, you have to wait for them, then if they don't have it on the truck that day you have to wait until they have it. Not to mention, with me being in welding school, I won't be where I am at for much longer, so I might be somewhere the truck guys don't come around.
2. The quality is just as good with Craftsmen as it is with the truck guys, IMHO. I don't need to pay extra for the Snap-On (and other guys) name on my tool.
As for welding stuff, I plan on buying only Lincoln Electric when I can. I used to live down the road from their Global Headquarters in Cleveland, OH. I now live on the west side in Berea, and I would rather support a local company if I can. Now if I am in a pinch and can't find/afford LE, then I'll get what I can.
1. I can go into any Sears in the country and exchange a broken hand tool for a new one, free. With the guys that come around in trucks, you have to wait for them, then if they don't have it on the truck that day you have to wait until they have it. Not to mention, with me being in welding school, I won't be where I am at for much longer, so I might be somewhere the truck guys don't come around.
2. The quality is just as good with Craftsmen as it is with the truck guys, IMHO. I don't need to pay extra for the Snap-On (and other guys) name on my tool.
As for welding stuff, I plan on buying only Lincoln Electric when I can. I used to live down the road from their Global Headquarters in Cleveland, OH. I now live on the west side in Berea, and I would rather support a local company if I can. Now if I am in a pinch and can't find/afford LE, then I'll get what I can.
#28
[quote=irishguy824;13674534]I am a Craftsman guy.
1. I can go into any Sears in the country and exchange a broken hand tool for a new one, free. With the guys that come around in trucks, you have to wait for them, then if they don't have it on the truck that day you have to wait until they have it. Not to mention, with me being in welding school, I won't be where I am at for much longer, so I might be somewhere the truck guys don't come around.
2. The quality is just as good with Craftsmen as it is with the truck guys, IMHO. I don't need to pay extra for the Snap-On (and other guys) name on my tool.
I wholeheartedly disagree with you ! I am 50 miles from the nearest Sears store , their tools are not as good as they use to be , and the warranty program sucks ! Walk in in uniform , no warranty ! My tool truck guys come to me each week , and better quality with snap on and mac . I have ratchets from Snap On I have had for 20 years . I got a few Crapsman ratchets from family for gifts . All but 1 have been scrapped with other scrap iron . They are dangerous under load ! They fail suddenly and can cause a severe injury ! SnapOn and Mac Are much better ! Safer , Easier to warranty ! IMHO
1. I can go into any Sears in the country and exchange a broken hand tool for a new one, free. With the guys that come around in trucks, you have to wait for them, then if they don't have it on the truck that day you have to wait until they have it. Not to mention, with me being in welding school, I won't be where I am at for much longer, so I might be somewhere the truck guys don't come around.
2. The quality is just as good with Craftsmen as it is with the truck guys, IMHO. I don't need to pay extra for the Snap-On (and other guys) name on my tool.
I wholeheartedly disagree with you ! I am 50 miles from the nearest Sears store , their tools are not as good as they use to be , and the warranty program sucks ! Walk in in uniform , no warranty ! My tool truck guys come to me each week , and better quality with snap on and mac . I have ratchets from Snap On I have had for 20 years . I got a few Crapsman ratchets from family for gifts . All but 1 have been scrapped with other scrap iron . They are dangerous under load ! They fail suddenly and can cause a severe injury ! SnapOn and Mac Are much better ! Safer , Easier to warranty ! IMHO
#30
I am a Craftsman guy.
1. I can go into any Sears in the country and exchange a broken hand tool for a new one, free. With the guys that come around in trucks, you have to wait for them, then if they don't have it on the truck that day you have to wait until they have it. Not to mention, with me being in welding school, I won't be where I am at for much longer, so I might be somewhere the truck guys don't come around.
1. I can go into any Sears in the country and exchange a broken hand tool for a new one, free. With the guys that come around in trucks, you have to wait for them, then if they don't have it on the truck that day you have to wait until they have it. Not to mention, with me being in welding school, I won't be where I am at for much longer, so I might be somewhere the truck guys don't come around.
Have you bought/used any Matco tools? I'm thinking of investing in some. I've used a few, and they come pretty highly recommended.