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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 10:54 PM
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My 74 highboy recently started backfiring through the exhaust. I thought it might be leaking collector gaskets, but that was ruled out. The engine is a mildly modified 390 with 5k miles on it. PerTronix Ignitor3 ignition & billet distributor. Edelbrock Performer intake, .500 lift cam, and a650 cfm Thunder Series AVS. I set ignition @ 10 degrees BTDC and keep the idle around 750. Since the motor's not "stock" I'm not sure if my setting are optimal or not. The rest of the drivetrain is np435 trans/205 transfer case and 4:10 Dana 44/front and Dana 60/rear. It ran fairly well untill I changed the spark plugs, during which time I separated the boot from on of the wires. The inner core looked intact, so I crimped the terminal back on. Also the inline fuel pressure gauge says I'm at 8 psi however Edelbrock says I should have 5-6 psi. Not sure if its contributing to the problem or not but in addition to the backfiring, it wants to stall at idle. Any suggestions would be appreciated as I'm still fairly green at trying to tune an engine.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 07:18 AM
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You probably need to re-look at your timing. With that setup, you might need 14-18* initial. Also check for vacuum leaks. And hook a vacuum gauge up and see what you got and how the gauge acts (needle fluctuates, bouncing around, etc...). If a wire is suspect, just change them.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 74FEMotorMan
My 74 highboy recently started backfiring through the exhaust. I thought it might be leaking collector gaskets, but that was ruled out. The engine is a mildly modified 390 with 5k miles on it. PerTronix Ignitor3 ignition & billet distributor. Edelbrock Performer intake, .500 lift cam, and a650 cfm Thunder Series AVS. I set ignition @ 10 degrees BTDC. Since the motor's not "stock" I'm not sure if my setting are optimal or not. The rest of the drivetrain is np435 trans/205 transfer case and 4:10 Dana 44/front and Dana 60/rear. It ran fairly well untill I changed the spark plugs, during which time I separated the boot from on of the wires. The inner core looked intact, so I crimped the terminal back on. Also the inline fuel pressure gauge says I'm at 8 psi however Edelbrock says I should have 5-6 psi. Not sure if its contributing to the problem or not but in addition to the backfiring, it wants to stall at idle. Any suggestions would be appreciated as I'm still fairly green at trying to tune an engine.
Your initial advance of 10 degrees may need bumped up but I can't say without knowing what your mechanical advance is.

Eddy carbs don't tolerate more than 6psi very well, you're probably overriding the needle/seat, I'd turn down the FPR to 5-6psi.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2013 | 09:50 AM
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You probably need to re-look at your timing. With that setup, you might need 14-18* initial. Also check for vacuum leaks. And hook a vacuum gauge up and see what you got and how the gauge acts (needle fluctuates, bouncing around, etc...). If a wire is suspect, just change them.
I reset the timing to 12* BTDC at idle, checked the vacuum and it fluttered ever so slightly (+/- 1/2*) at 15 inches of vacuum. Somebody I know suggested to look at the rotor and distributor cap. I found them to be very "dirty". After a rudimentary cleaning. I restarted the engine and went for a little drive. Everything seems to be back to normal. At around 5,000 miles on a rebuilt motor and the distributor being a new addition, I don't see how it got that dirty on the cap and rotor. Anyway I really appreciate the input I got from this forum. When I get a chance, I will post pictures of my truck. It's wears a metallic silver paint job , and with stock hubcaps, it looks like it just rolled out of the factory. Thanks guys, I'm sure I will have more questions in the future.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2013 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by montana_highboy
Your initial advance of 10 degrees may need bumped up but I can't say without knowing what your mechanical advance is.

Eddy carbs don't tolerate more than 6psi very well, you're probably overriding the needle/seat, I'd turn down the FPR to 5-6psi.
I will get a FPR as soon as I get a chance. That will help with the occasional surging at idle I have I'm sure.
 
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I will get a FPR as soon as I get a chance. That will help with the occasional surging at idle I have I'm sure.
Stock fuel pumps put out about 7psi (+/-) sometimes you'll get a pump that plays well with an Eddy carb, other times you'll get a pump that requires the use of a FPR, it's hit or miss.
 
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