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Apr 23, 2013 | 07:46 AM

Gicknordon

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Totally new suspension

I just found this video on youtube in my recommended videos. This seems like a very cool idea and would be simple to add to many cars.

Apr 23, 2013 | 08:33 AM

Gicknordon

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i guess ts not totally new. Its kind of a more sophisticated version of a gocart suspension.

Apr 23, 2013 | 09:23 AM

Dobies4life

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Didnt Mercedes do a hydraulic suspension decades ago? I know they were the originators of fuel injection in the 50's. For some reason this just screams old Mercedes tech.

Apr 23, 2013 | 09:40 AM

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That was Citroen that had hydraulic suspension.

Apr 23, 2013 | 09:52 AM

Dobies4life

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I knew I had read somewhere about it. Thank God for people older and wiser than me!

Apr 23, 2013 | 02:25 PM

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Ross is right, Citroen did it first but Mercedes did use it in the early 60s on the 600 Grosser which had hydraulic everything.

Apr 23, 2013 | 02:53 PM

Gicknordon

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Was the suspension on the spindle the same though?

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Apr 23, 2013 | 05:05 PM

Gicknordon

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Ok i see. I wonder if this could be adapted to an original solid front axle to get the real look of a solid axle but the ride of an ifs.

Apr 23, 2013 | 06:30 PM

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CharlieLed

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Very cool setup...looks to me to be more like the old Chevy knee-action setup than some of the others. Solid mounted axle with suspended spindles at the wheels.

Apr 23, 2013 | 07:35 PM

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Interesting concept, but not an improvement IMHO. There is no provision for camber gain with roll or antidive with braking.

Apr 24, 2013 | 01:29 PM

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To understand antidive look at the upper control arm. The pivot is angled upward toward the front. Someone recent said their MII front was installed backwards and the upper control arm sloped downward (really bad). Anyway, when braking there is a horizontal force acting in the forward direction on the upper ball joint and the upper control arm geometry turns this force into a downward force at the ball joint. The downward or antidive force is proportional to the braking force. Pretty cool. But how effective is this? I don't think McPherson struts have the same effect but most cars nowdays use that type front suspension.

Apr 24, 2013 | 06:41 PM

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Easier explanation: brake dive is when the front brakes are applied the resistance on the wheel rotation makes the front end want to tuck under,
similar to what happens when you apply only the front brake on a motorcycle. Anti-dive is geometry built in that resists that force.