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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 05:58 PM
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Cool Spark plug help needed

ok so today i wen to change the plugs on my 4.6 f150 and cylinders 1 2 3 went smooth, then # 4. the boot on the plug wire broke off on the spark plug so i decided to skip it and come back, then i got to # 5 which was covered in oil and anti freeze(yes i know intake gasket). and it appears and appeared to have no nut on the spark plug that i can see so i skipped that one. on to # 6 the boot broke on # 6 so i decided i was done, put everything back like it was and i get a horrible idle and no acceleration and a code for #5 and #6 cylinder misfire, so my question is, is there an easy solution to getting a wire boot off or do i need to take it to a dealer and have them tear the engine out? this has been an all day affair and any help is always appreciated.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 09:36 PM
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No no no.
You know full well what is left behind on the plugs.
There are boot removers usually found at the auto stores.
It has a 90 degree bend on the end with a cut out to get under the boot piece left on.
Or you can carefully use a long screw driver to slice the boot at some point so you can get the plug socket forced down to the body.
Remove the rubber guard from the plug socket so ther eis room for the peice left on the plug.
What you must not do is break the plug in place and have porcelean drop into the cylinder.
You don't tear a motor apart for left behind boots.
After it all done, pay attention more often and use the dielectric grease so there is less likelyhood of the boot burning fast to the plug.
I'm not at all surprised the motor dosn't run very well after all this.
A little more attention to maintaince and changing boots would have prevented this.
It's difficult enough to keep thing right with good parts.
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Just an example; I can look all the cylinder missfire counts and detect a problems long before is gets bad enough to set a code.
You would be supprised how often a bad boot will leak and cause missfire you can't even feel.
I just ran a issue with poping in the radio and no missfire that could be felt.
Looked at it and see it was cylinder 1. Replaced the boot, it was not that so went on and replaced the coil. No more pop and no missfire counts on that cylinder. All 8 are now zero for missfire counts.
When your doing your own work you have to do it right because you only have the end result to go by without any means to look deeper with test gear.
Good luck.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 11:44 PM
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ok that solves the first problem. the real problem now is that cylinder # 5 appears to have no nut on the plug and looking at it closely looks as though its been either welded or epoxied to the head. wish i could get a picture of what im looking cause ive never seen anything like it. i've never had to do any ignition work to my truck up till now so as i am puttin the new plugs in (the ones i got in at least lol) i was giving each boot a liberal glob of dielctric grease.
i'm thinkin about giving up and letting someone else do it, cause cylinder # 4 has a broken boot and there ain't no way in hell i can get any kind of tool back in there to do anything to it. i tried using the plug remover tool without a boot in it to avail.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 12:05 AM
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I assumed normal conditions for the reply but if you have a plug that has been put in place like that, your in for at least a new head.
You either bought the truck with that condition or someone pulled a stunt on you in the past.
I have actually heard of an instance where the owner did epoxy a plug in place on a 5.4 that had blown the threads out but not here on any boards.
Just sounds like your motor was abused through stupidity and neglect.
Now it's time to pay for that no matter who's at fault.
When short cuts are taken to save money and time, somewhere down the road it will be paid for two or three times over.
Good luck.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 12:09 PM
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Good luck! I'm thinking should I attempt to change plugs, or just trade mine in!!
 
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 12:35 PM
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If nothing foolish was done to the motor and reasonable maintanince was done, why would you feel that way?
Those who abuse equipment get what they deserve in the end.
Good luck.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 07:28 PM
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Good luck! I'm thinking should I attempt to change plugs, or just trade mine in!!
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Most plug changes on the 2 valve are uneventful
You'll do fine
 
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