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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 11:15 PM
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Block casting #'s/Wrong Flywheel?

Where is the casting numbers on my engine I need to find out the year to find out why I'm chewing up starters...
When I replaced the fly wheel the guy at napa gave me one for my model year, and the bolts did not line up with the engine so i took the flywheel back and got one that matched (I belive) and I remember the guy making some comment like "It's a winsor flywheel" , well I heard that they use the same one after 82/83, is that true?
This is not the original engine in the truck, also I heard that it had a C-4 and someone put a C-6 in there...
 
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 04:08 PM
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 11:44 AM
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Block casting #'s/Wrong Flywheel?

Casting number on your block is right above the starter.

351W and 302 used the same flywheel until 82, then the 302 balance was changed.

It's possible that your tranny was changed. Get the tranny code off the door tag and check the listings on Mil1ion's site.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 01:05 AM
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Block casting #'s/Wrong Flywheel?

The starters on all 302's and 351W's are pretty much interchangeable. If you're chewing up starters, look at the flywheel ring gear, see what it's condition is.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 07:04 AM
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Block casting #'s/Wrong Flywheel?

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Your working in an area that can drive you nuts. You have an Windsor and C4 combo that someone else put together. First of all There are 3 different weighted flywheels (flexplates) and 2 different ring gears sizes. Chances are your old flexplate has a counterweight either 28 or 50 oz (there are 0 oz interernaly balanced Windsors but there rare) you must determine which you
have and must use the same weight and I hope you marked the weight position on the end of the crankshaft as the new one must go on exact position as it was when removed. Second count the number of teeth on the flywheel some are 164 some 157. If you had the origional engine, tranny for a long period of time with no heavy vibrations or trouble chances are what came out was right. Now when you put the tranny back in do the following :

Clean the reciever hole in the crankshaft and lightly grease and the snout on the torque convertor.

Slip the converter on the tranny (if not already) and make sure it is slipped all the way into the pump and engaged!

As you are remount the tranny to the engine line up the flexplate mounting nut tabs on the torque converter to the flexplate bolt holes. Now as you are remounting the transmission when the bellhousing is about 1/2 inch from the block start paying carefull attention to the spacing between the mounting tabs on the converter and the flexplate with the bellhousing mounted snugly against the block and the converter fully pushed back into the pump there should be about 1/16 to 1/4 space between the tabs and plate!!!! If the mounting tabs on the converter are jammed against the plate you need an aftermarket spacer plate that mounts between the tranny and belhousing. (this is often the case using a 164 tooth plate and a C4).

Takes longer to write this than it does to do, Good Luck,

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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 08:40 AM
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Block casting #'s/Wrong Flywheel?

FYI, you can't bolt on any Ford flywheel in the wrong position. The bolt holes in the pattern aren't drilled the same distance apart , although they look the same. The pattern only lines up the holes one way ( this ain't a Chevy we're working on !)
 
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 09:54 PM
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Block casting #'s/Wrong Flywheel?

Well I fixed the starter prolbem, I used a new 78 f100 351W starter with two washers for shims, starts perfect now...
 
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Old Jun 14, 2003 | 05:48 AM
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Block casting #'s/Wrong Flywheel?

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Your right about the positioning in a 302 - 351W I am just in the habit of marking position in any engine. How ever not sure if the statement any Ford is correct if my memory serves me correctly I got in the habit after shoehorning a 390 into a 56 Ford I didnt mark the flywheel and it took four tries to get it right, pulling the motor each time. Since then I mark em all.

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Block casting #'s/Wrong Flywheel?

Also fwiw, easier than counting 157/164 teeth - 157 measures about 13.25" and the 164 measures 14.25 (+/-)
 
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Old Jun 14, 2003 | 08:56 AM
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Block casting #'s/Wrong Flywheel?

Skip_T------ I've been fooling with FE Fords ( along with other Ford engine families too) for 25 years and have NEVER found one yet that you could bolt the flywheel/flexplate any other way but in one position.
 
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