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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 08:58 PM
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Vibration/knock with heat on

Recently I noticed I have a vibration and what feels like a phaser knock or timing chain rattle when I turn on my heat when the truck is at operating temperature, other than that it runs fine. I've tried searching on this but I'm kinda stumped with it.

I just had my timing chains, tensioners, vtc solenoids and chain guides replaced in the fall about 14k miles ago. I would think that turning on the heat would draw some away from the motor to the heating core and help with the oil not thinning.

Truck is a 08 F-150 XL with the 5.4 flex fuel and 112xxx miles. I only run 5w20 synthetic with a motorcraft filter.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 09:51 PM
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Turning on the heat doesn't change how hot the engine runs to any measureable degree, so you really aren't accomplishing anything by doing that.

As for the noise, turning on the heat doesn't change anything in the engine, but turning the A/C on does, and most likely you have a problem either in the compressor itself or the belt drive system. Remember the A/C runs in all positions except "panel" and "floor."
 
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FireMe
Turning on the heat doesn't change how hot the engine runs to any measureable degree, so you really aren't accomplishing anything by doing that.

As for the noise, turning on the heat doesn't change anything in the engine, but turning the A/C on does, and most likely you have a problem either in the compressor itself or the belt drive system. Remember the A/C runs in all positions except "panel" and "floor."
well this is happening with it on defrost with heat I'll try and see what it does with AC on tomorrow but it sounds just like phaser knock but I don't see why it'd do it with the heat on unless I have some really weird short going on. I'm also going to try power washing the belts then using some belt conditioner because I'm pretty sure they're original and the truck does see allot of mud and dirt.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 07:57 PM
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To clarify, it doesn't matter what the temperature **** is set at, only what the mode **** is turned to (panel, floor, etc.) In other words, when you set your "heater" to defrost in the middle of winter with temp set all the way hot, the A/C compressor will still operate. It does this to dry the air as well as to circulate the oil in the A/C system. This has been a normal operating strategy since R134 started being used in the mid 1990's.

So, start the engine, turn the defroster on, pop the hood, and see if the noise is happening when the A/C compressor cycles on.

DO NOT put any "dressing" on the belt. If it's making noise it needs to be replaced. Belt dressing makes the belt sticky and dirt will build up and act like sand paper on your pulleys.
 
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