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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 10:16 PM
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6.9 idi hard cold start

My 1983 6.9 doesn't seem to want to start on cold mornings or after sitting in the school parking lot for 7 hours. I have replaced all of the glow plugs and gotten 2 new batteries. The only thing i haven't done is get a new block heater. This is my first diesel and I've run out of ideas. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 10:44 PM
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Do the glow plugs stay on for about 10 sec or so??? how long do you crank it before it starts up or do you have to double glow it?
 
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 03:18 PM
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Yes, they do stay on for around 10 seconds. I usually have to crank it for around 10-20 seconds before it fires up. I've noticed that as it cranks it acts like it starts but if i let off the key it just quits. I have tried running the glow plugs for 2 cycles but when i do the wait to start light instantly clicks off. Does this mean the glow plugs go off too or do they continue to heat up.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 03:35 PM
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the glow plugs go off wait about 15 20 sec between glows. Mine does that to acts like its starts but my glow plugs dont work so i give it a lil shot of ether

does it still take 10 to 20 sec if it sits over night to start???
 
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 04:31 PM
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could be air intrusion on the return lines. Have you replaced those?
 
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 05:27 PM
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Mine has all new returns, ip, injectors and glowplugs that cylce for the full 10-15 seconds, still takes that long to start.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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Ledbetter, first welcome to the forum. I would be willing to bet that if you put a return line kit on your truck that it would start just fine. Sounds like you have a air intrusion problem on the return side of the fuel system. What this does is cause all the fuel in the system to drain back to the tank so it takes a lot of cranking to get fuel back up to the engine. There are lots of places you can buy the kit, EBay, Pensicola Diesel, just to name a few. It's not expensive and it's easy to do. Don't ever use ether on your truck and use only Motorcraft glow plugs. Be sure to come back and give us a progress report. Happy truckin.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 06:04 PM
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Thanks for the warm welcome. I'll stop by the parts store on my way home tomorrow grab a kit. Hopefully this fixes the problem. I'll keep you all updated.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 09:42 PM
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Just an FYI the name for the return line kit is called fuel injector install kit. That should save you some trouble with the parts guys.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 05:52 AM
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Does your block heater work? If so, does it start right up when you use the heater?
Any white smoke when cranking?
 
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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 11:32 AM
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Before using your block heater, please read up on block heaters potentially cracking the blocks of the early gen. 6.9's. Someone else will have more details, but I refuse to use my stock block heater. Not worth the risk. I may get an auxiliary coolant heater later to help things out though.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 11:54 PM
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If all the fuel drained back,it would take a very long time to start..the ip won't pump air..so it will allways take a few seconds of cranking to start them..cold..hot they jump to life...cold they don't,,step on the peddle when starting cold,,don't when hot...if it starts hard she may be tired, or the glows are weak..mine will start on the block heater alone..30*out..just sayin
 
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 01:49 PM
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Happy Easter. O'Reillys finally came through and got the kit in. I put it on and it does start better, but I'm not sure if this is because of the kit or the fact that it is in the mid 50s. tomorrow its supposed to dip down into the 40s and ill see if it made a difference.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 09:37 AM
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Good News. It was in the low 40s this morning and it fired right up. Thanks to everyone for the good tips.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 07:43 PM
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my truck did the same thing then it did good for an month then it went back to hard cold starts come to find out some of the new glow plugs were bad so new dont always mean new lol so if you every have the problem again try checking them again keep the IDI alive
 
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