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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 07:25 PM
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Tuner questions

My only experience with tuners is a superchips tuner I had for my 6.0

On the sct or H&S does the tunes come built in? I'm looking to get one when I'm ready to remove egr.

I want to make sure I have the tunes and tuner when I'm ready to delete the egr and put new exhaust on.
My superchips I plugged it in and was ready to go. The vin was tied to the tuner.

Any help appreciated on the education of the 6.7 tuners.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 07:42 PM
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I would hurry up and get a tuner, they are getting hard to find if you want one to delete your egr/dpf. H&s, the tunes are pretty much built in. You update the tuner with a sd card.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 08:23 PM
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Snyder has some MiniMaxx Race tuners for $1400 and is pretty much the cheapest place around right now. The tunes are as 2ndStroke explained. You download them to a memory card and then update the tuner with the H&S tunes. They have a customer tune capability with the MCC software, but unless you KNOW what you are doing, the H&S tunes do just fine
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 08:24 PM
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So I don't need to buy anything more from H&S after buying the tuner?

I just want to make sure I don't need to get anything else now that the EPA is banning everything.
I want to have it all in hand for the future.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 08:35 PM
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S.P.E will make you tunes with the MCC if you don't know what your doing, someone did a zero to 60 in 4.5 seconds with their tune.

All you need from h&s will be your unlock code and the tuner. Maybe get a egr delete soon too as some companies aren't making their deletes any more...I just ordered spe's, looks like a nice kit.
 
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I thought H&S couldn't offer egr delete tunes anymore?

See I told you this was confusing to me.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 2ndStroke

All you need from h&s will be your unlock code and the tuner. Maybe get a egr delete soon too as some companies aren't making their deletes any more...I just ordered spe's, looks like a nice kit.
Is this the kit you bought?

COMPLETE LEAK-PROOF EGR DELETE KIT
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 08:46 PM
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H & S isn't offering the delete. They are unlocking a previously legal capability built into the race tuners. Once they are gone (race tuners)...that's it.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 08:47 PM
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They can't lol, that's why you have to buy their old "race" tuner, which still has the delete tuning. Their new tuners are "street" tuners that you won't be able to delete with.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by majkthreads
Is this the kit you bought?

COMPLETE LEAK-PROOF EGR DELETE KIT
Nope, this is the kit.


Spe 6 7 Powerstroke Egr Delete - Spe68egrdlt - Engines and Components - Ford 6 7L 11-12 - by Spe
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 09:49 PM
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Thank you so much guys. Truly thank you for the education.
 
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From my understanding, the H&S tuner will derate/defuel the truck when certain paramaters are meet? Weather that is user set paramaters or preloaded parameters? And the Spartan will not derate/defuel the truck if you get into dangerous territory ie high egt's? GThose are the two biggest differences correct?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 10:04 PM
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Spartan is a flash tuner where H&S mini and black maxx have 'shift on the fly' tuning to change between the different levels. To change levels on a Spartan you have to redownload the new tune to the computer, 10-20 min procedure.

I believe Spartan does now have EGT monitoring capabilities for the 6.7 and I would assume with monitoring it would also defuel, but that's just an assumption.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 10:06 PM
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Which tunes are the best? Do pull a 37' tt and a 30' cargo trailer that's approx. 11,000+
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 10:26 PM
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I don't know anyone with a Spartan. Everyone that I personally know or talk to has an H&S tuner. Their Customer Service is outstanding. They are a far larger company than Spartan. I didn't even consider Spartan when looking for a tuner. That's just my opinion.
 
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