High Mileage Tranny Flush - Yay or Nay
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High Mileage Tranny Flush - Yay or Nay
I recently purchased a 93 F150 5.0L with the E4OD tranny. The truck drives fine but the tranny seems to have fairly firm shifts. The truck has about 190,000 miles on it. I have only put on a few hundred of those miles on myself & I don't really know the maintenance history of the vehicle, for all I know the motor/trans could be stock or have been replaced. I have checked for codes and the truck comes up clean everytime. Also the fluid is still bright red and doesn't smell burnt.
I phoned a place about getting a tranny flush done. I was told by them that it may not be a good idea on a high mileage vehicle, they also don't do pan/filter service, flush only.
Should I get the tranny flushed or would I be better off dropping my pan, replacing the gasket and filter and just topping it back up with some fresh fluid?
My original plan was to use some of the Seafoam Trans Tune, drive around a bit then go and have the filter changed + complete flush but now I am unsure of what to do, so I am asking the experts for their opinions
I phoned a place about getting a tranny flush done. I was told by them that it may not be a good idea on a high mileage vehicle, they also don't do pan/filter service, flush only.
Should I get the tranny flushed or would I be better off dropping my pan, replacing the gasket and filter and just topping it back up with some fresh fluid?
My original plan was to use some of the Seafoam Trans Tune, drive around a bit then go and have the filter changed + complete flush but now I am unsure of what to do, so I am asking the experts for their opinions
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That part about not changing the fluid in a high mileage transmission is an old BS tale. I wouldn't do a flush, I would drop the pan and change the filter and drain the fluid from the torque converter at the same time.
Where you have a drain plug on the torque converter you don't need to do a flush or fluid exchange or whatever they want to call it. It is very important to drop the pan and wash any crud and small metal chips out that may be in the bottom of the pan. Just my opinion.
Where you have a drain plug on the torque converter you don't need to do a flush or fluid exchange or whatever they want to call it. It is very important to drop the pan and wash any crud and small metal chips out that may be in the bottom of the pan. Just my opinion.
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I wouldn't flush it, the shops like to use snake oils when servicing transmissions. Ask that shop how they do it, they'll probably tell you they use Wynn's brand chemicals.
Just do a straight drain and refill (don't forget the torque converter if it has a drain plug), and change the filter. I changed the oil in an old, high mileage transmission once... didn't hurt it one bit. Actually shifted better too... no surprise there
Just do a straight drain and refill (don't forget the torque converter if it has a drain plug), and change the filter. I changed the oil in an old, high mileage transmission once... didn't hurt it one bit. Actually shifted better too... no surprise there
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You should do a full flush and change the filter yourself. It's very easy and will save you $$$. You can pump the old fluid out of the return line into a plastic pan (similar to this Sterilite® 28 Quart Basic Clear Storage Boxes with White Lid | U.S. Plastic Corp.) using 3/8" clear tubing. Then drop the pan, change the filter, clean the pan, install and torque to spec. Have the filter, gasket if needed, and the amount of fluid required for your trans + 2 quarts on hand. You wouldn't change only 2 of 5 quarts of engine oil, would you?
And since you don't know the vehicle history, it's a good idea to change all of your fluids.
And since you don't know the vehicle history, it's a good idea to change all of your fluids.
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His truck does NOT have a reusable gasket. I would recommend installing either a drain plug into his current pan, or buying a new pan from Ford that has one. Its a little expensive, but the next time you go to do this job, it will be MUCH easier.
Here is the part number for the pan: F81Z-7A194-BA
And the reusable gasket: F6TZ-7A191-A
They add up to about $90, but I recommend them if you can afford them.
Here is the part number for the pan: F81Z-7A194-BA
And the reusable gasket: F6TZ-7A191-A
They add up to about $90, but I recommend them if you can afford them.
#10
It depends on what the fluid looks like. Nice and red, you'll probably be OK. Dark brown, better start saving for a tranny replacement. I wouldn't recommend a fluid change, either, because your tranny is already dead, it just doesn't know it.
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His truck does NOT have a reusable gasket. I would recommend installing either a drain plug into his current pan, or buying a new pan from Ford that has one. Its a little expensive, but the next time you go to do this job, it will be MUCH easier.
Here is the part number for the pan: F81Z-7A194-BA
And the reusable gasket: F6TZ-7A191-A
They add up to about $90, but I recommend them if you can afford them.
Here is the part number for the pan: F81Z-7A194-BA
And the reusable gasket: F6TZ-7A191-A
They add up to about $90, but I recommend them if you can afford them.
I honestly have no earthly idea why these didn't come with drainplugs faster
But I highly suggest installing one while your pan is down and getting cleaned thoroughly.
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You should do a full flush and change the filter yourself. It's very easy and will save you $$$. You can pump the old fluid out of the return line into a plastic pan (similar to this Sterilite® 28 Quart Basic Clear Storage Boxes with White Lid | U.S. Plastic Corp.) using 3/8" clear tubing. Then drop the pan, change the filter, clean the pan, install and torque to spec. Have the filter, gasket if needed, and the amount of fluid required for your trans + 2 quarts on hand. You wouldn't change only 2 of 5 quarts of engine oil, would you?
And since you don't know the vehicle history, it's a good idea to change all of your fluids.
And since you don't know the vehicle history, it's a good idea to change all of your fluids.
this is not a trans fluid flush, it is a fluid change.
when they flush the trans they add chemicals to "clean" it. all that does is destroy the trans.
but your way is the way i do it
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A fluid change is widely known as dropping the pan, draining the 4-5 quarts in the pan along with a filter replacement, then replacing only what was removed leaving a majority of the old fluid in the transmission and in my opinion an incomplete job.
Most people on this thread are saying not to flush the trans, shops use snake oil, or change the filter and a few quarts. Whats the point of adding 4-5 quarts of clean transmission fluid to 10 quarts of old fluid? I would never power flush my trans at a shop as I can do it myself for $85 worth of fluid and an hour or two of my time. It takes longer to set up for the job then it takes to flush and fill a trans.