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The most important thing with retreads is how good is the casing? (original tire) Back when I did a lot of tire work on semi's most retread failures came from the casing having rust in the belts. They have come a long ways in finding those issues in retread tires today. That said, I would not put them on the steer axle either. I know with semi trucks, that may be illegal in some states. Something to look for, on a tire, there is a DOT number, which includes the date. The last 2 digits are the year. Also, when they are recapped, the re-capper has to mark the tire too. Likewise, the last 2 digits indicate the year it was recapped.
Great info there, John. I, for one, really appreciate your insight/expertise on this topic.
Is that with retread tires in general or treadwright's retread tires. I just want to run them during hunting season, but will be on the highway when headed up and back from the hunting camp so want them to be safe.
i have never run TW, it is just other retreads that i have seen.
I used to do a lot of work on garbage trucks, and I have seen some tires re-capped 4 times. There are different ways to re-cap a tire too. From what I read off of Treadwrights website, they do a hot cap. That is, they mold the rubber to the tire using heat and a chemical adhesive, then they put the tire in a mold and heat the rubber up to make the tread pattern. The other method I'm familiar with is they have the tread already made in big rolls, and they cut the piece they need for each tire and basically glue it to the tire. Heat is also used in this process, just not as much. Nothing wrong with either method, both have their advantages and disadvantages. As I said before, the main thing to look for is how good is the original casing before they start.
I have done a LOT of research on this including talking to a couple of people from Treadwright. Their process is state of the art and they have a set inspection process for casings as well. I have even messaged people on their FB page to get their honest opinions. When the time comes I will be buying the 7 tires for my dually via them without hesitation.
... I know with semi trucks, that may be illegal in some states.
To make it perfectly clear, The Federal DOT has a rule that it is illegal to use recaps of any kind on the steer tires of any DOT inspected truck. This includes any light trucks used for commercial purposes. Pickups are considered (for this rule) to be light trucks. Not just semi trucks.
Drive tires have different requirements, and recaps are allowed.
The hours of service and log book rules apply as well if a light truck is used for commercial purposes.
The truck in my sig was used by me as a commercial truck for a short time.
To make it perfectly clear, The Federal DOT has a rule that it is illegal to use recaps of any kind on the steer tires of any DOT inspected truck. This includes any light trucks used for commercial purposes. Pickups are considered (for this rule) to be light trucks. Not just semi trucks.
Drive tires have different requirements, and recaps are allowed.
The hours of service and log book rules apply as well if a light truck is used for commercial purposes.
The truck in my sig was used by me as a commercial truck for a short time.
Retreads are fine on the steer axle on vehicles that are NOT a bus.
So for 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, recaps on the steer axle aren't an issue. But, bigger trucks, pretty much anything with front axles rated over about 9,000lbs, it is illegal.
So for 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, recaps on the steer axle aren't an issue. But, bigger trucks, pretty much anything with front axles rated over about 9,000lbs, it is illegal.
(d) No bus shall be operated with regrooved, recapped or retreaded tires on the front wheels.
(e) A regrooved tire with a load-carrying capacity equal to or greater than 2,232 kg (4,920 pounds) shall not be used on the front wheels of any truck or truck tractor.
Like I said before, as long as it is not a bus you can use a retread on any tire.
Sub-section (e) is in regards to a regrooved tire which is not a retread.
I guess I was wrong. A regrooved tire is not a retread, according to definitions I found.
I would not put a retread on a commercial truck, the liability is too high.
For $650 shipped to my door, that's pretty hard to beat and they do seem to get great reviews from people running them.
I'll update this post occasionally after I run them for a while.
I have looked at these tires a few different times and always come to the same conclusion, they are overpriced. I have always found comparable new tires locally or online for the same price or less.
Which one of your guys that are complaining about retreads on steer tires work there truck???
If you DD your truck then run them. We have been running them on our F450. For the $200 i'm saving per tire they rock. The only difference I can find is when i'm at 35k gross and up I can feel the sidewalls flex thru curves. It doesn't push the truck.. just feels different.
Nice to deal with. just remember if you run them on low on pressure for mud you lose all warranty.. check their FAQ
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