150k coolant is BS!
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5th Wheeling
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150k coolant is BS!
Hey everyone ford states 150k before changing the coolant under normal driving conditions. I called them to tell to say my coolant at 37k is trashed. They said well you are supposed to change every 30k for $149.00. Is there anything that might cause coolant to look like mine at so few miles? FOrd is saying there is nothing wrong with the engine but I do nto believe them. ANy suggesstions?
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A great many vehicles have coolant that will go 100-150k miles and it never looks like that. Either you have a head gasket leak (does your overflow bottle smell like exhaust gas?) or someone put something in your coolant--either some kind of "sealer" of a mix with an incompatible coolant type that makes the gunky stuff you are showing us.
No need to blame Ford for using fluids with extended intervals. In general, they are better for the environment and cheaper for us owners because we don't have to replace them nearly as often. And they never look like your coolant.
You have a problem of some sort. It is not caused by the 150k coolant change interval.
Good luck,
George
No need to blame Ford for using fluids with extended intervals. In general, they are better for the environment and cheaper for us owners because we don't have to replace them nearly as often. And they never look like your coolant.
You have a problem of some sort. It is not caused by the 150k coolant change interval.
Good luck,
George
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5th Wheeling
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My oil is still great. I change it every 5k. My tank doesnt have any smell to it, but it is almost empty. I thought about the head gasket leak, but I have not been able to presure test it yet. I am not blaming ford for their coolant, I was actually talking about the dealership whom I brought it to who told me even though it says 150k, i need to change it every 30k. They never checked it for anything else, so I drove away so I could research this not trusting them. Has anyone ever seen this in a head gasket leak?
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A great many vehicles have coolant that will go 100-150k miles and it never looks like that. Either you have a head gasket leak (does your overflow bottle smell like exhaust gas?) or someone put something in your coolant--either some kind of "sealer" of a mix with an incompatible coolant type that makes the gunky stuff you are showing us.
No need to blame Ford for using fluids with extended intervals. In general, they are better for the environment and cheaper for us owners because we don't have to replace them nearly as often. And they never look like your coolant.
You have a problem of some sort. It is not caused by the 150k coolant change interval.
Good luck,
George
No need to blame Ford for using fluids with extended intervals. In general, they are better for the environment and cheaper for us owners because we don't have to replace them nearly as often. And they never look like your coolant.
You have a problem of some sort. It is not caused by the 150k coolant change interval.
Good luck,
George
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This, There is another factor at play here. I went 160k with the gold coolant in my 08 Focus, and at 62k on our 12 Escape, all is still clean, same with my Excursion at 61k.
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It appears to be a contamination issue, IMO. I bet there is another issue causing this, and not because of the coolant.
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5th Wheeling
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I have only had my oil changed once by tire kingdom, and i can not be sure that they did not top it off with a different coolant. I think I will perform the flush this weekend and follow it closely to see if anything changes. I just dont see any difference in performance or temp. Very weird!
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I have seen this issue with GM since th90's . The switch over to OAT coolant causes some maint. issues . Even if it "will go 100k" does not mean it does not have to be maintained . GM had many issues with " mud " in the cooling systems . The introduction of air into the system caused nasty side effects . Any system needs to be maintained . Ck for proper coolant concentration , leaks , ect . I am now seeing this with Ford and other makes . Any air leak , bad rad.cap ect. , can cause issues . And if the coolant mix vs water is not proper bad things can happen .
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I have seen this issue with GM since th90's . The switch over to OAT coolant causes some maint. issues . Even if it "will go 100k" does not mean it does not have to be maintained . GM had many issues with " mud " in the cooling systems . The introduction of air into the system caused nasty side effects . Any system needs to be maintained . Ck for proper coolant concentration , leaks , ect . I am now seeing this with Ford and other makes . Any air leak , bad rad.cap ect. , can cause issues . And if the coolant mix vs water is not proper bad things can happen .
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Owners just saw that 100k and did not care !
They got it mostly fixed by changing the cooling system layout and cap design . Now I am seeing similar issues with other makes . Mind , no where near as bad as GM had , but still issues .
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Actually my last van (before my current and excellent '02 E150) was a 1996 Savana with Dexron coolant. The coolant was supposed to last 100k miles but it dissolved the intake manifold gaskets at 66k miles. GM paid half the cost of replacement. That was truly the Van from Hell with MANY other problems and I got rid of the POS van at 66k miles. My E150 has 111k miles on it, original coolant changed at 42k miles with some other service work, and I don't plan on changing it for another 30k miles or so.
George
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Actually my last van (before my current and excellent '20 E150) was a 1996 Savana with Dexron coolant. The coolant was supposed to last 100k miles but it dissolved the intake manifold gaskets at 66k miles. GM paid half the cost of replacement. That was truly the Van from Hell with MANY other problems and I got rid of the POS van at 66k miles. My E150 has 111k miles on it, original coolant changed at 42k miles with some other service work, and I don't plan on changing it for another 30k miles or so.
George
George
I have seen a lot of that on Fords . Heater cores , radiators , pumps . Cavitation caused by improper protection , I'll stop there .