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I own a 1985 flat bed pickup and yesterday i was taking it to the gas station to put air in a low tire well, I was coming to a stop when my throttle stuck to the floor and i smacked my breaks from running a red light after i got the throttle unstuck i drove it home and it started losing power while i was driving it. I had parked it in the street and was going to shut it off when i notice a loud knock from the motor and would die randomly after finally letting it sit at a high idle the knock completely disappeared but when i threw it in gear it started to lose power again so i poped the head and found metal shavings in my valve covers does this mean i might of thrown a rod?
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Sounds like 2 problems.
Stuck throttle would have to be in the linkage between the pedal and the carb. Think 28 years of doing the same thing one of the joints could have developed a hitch.
Shavings
Are they located more in one area or spread all over.
What engine? V8?? Are they on one bank or both?
Do the shavings look really shiny and clean or old and greasy.
That could tell you maybe if the shavings were from the knock or caused the knock.
Drain the oil and check it for shavings. If there is none perhaps the problem is top end only.
There is some more info needed to help diagnose.
Stuck throttle would have to be in the linkage between the pedal and the carb. Think 28 years of doing the same thing one of the joints could have developed a hitch.
Shavings
Are they located more in one area or spread all over.
What engine? V8?? Are they on one bank or both?
Do the shavings look really shiny and clean or old and greasy.
That could tell you maybe if the shavings were from the knock or caused the knock.
Drain the oil and check it for shavings. If there is none perhaps the problem is top end only.
There is some more info needed to help diagnose.
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Wow! I can't get my head around whatever you said. I keep looking for periods but there aren't many and the thoughts just run on and on. Got hung up with you putting air in a "low tire well" and still haven't figured out what a "tire well" is.
But, I think I figured out the last little bit: No, finding metal shavings under the valve cover doesn't mean you've thrown a rod. It doesn't prove that you haven't, but I doubt it.
I suspect you have multiple problems, one of which has to do with the throttle linkage. But since you haven't told us what the engine is nor if it is carb'd or EFI'd I can't go much further on that. As for the knock, losing power, and stalling we will just have to work on one problem at a time. But, you are going to have to spend some time composing complete sentences, with proper punctuation, so I can get my head around what you are trying to say. There are lots of people asking for help and I can't spend my time struggling to understand your poorly-worded or punctuated posts when I could be easily understanding and responding to others.
But, I think I figured out the last little bit: No, finding metal shavings under the valve cover doesn't mean you've thrown a rod. It doesn't prove that you haven't, but I doubt it.
I suspect you have multiple problems, one of which has to do with the throttle linkage. But since you haven't told us what the engine is nor if it is carb'd or EFI'd I can't go much further on that. As for the knock, losing power, and stalling we will just have to work on one problem at a time. But, you are going to have to spend some time composing complete sentences, with proper punctuation, so I can get my head around what you are trying to say. There are lots of people asking for help and I can't spend my time struggling to understand your poorly-worded or punctuated posts when I could be easily understanding and responding to others.
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Wow! I can't get my head around whatever you said. I keep looking for periods but there aren't many and the thoughts just run on and on. Got hung up with you putting air in a "low tire well" and still haven't figured out what a "tire well" is.
But, I think I figured out the last little bit: No, finding metal shavings under the valve cover doesn't mean you've thrown a rod. It doesn't prove that you haven't, but I doubt it.
I suspect you have multiple problems, one of which has to do with the throttle linkage. But since you haven't told us what the engine is nor if it is carb'd or EFI'd I can't go much further on that. As for the knock, losing power, and stalling we will just have to work on one problem at a time. But, you are going to have to spend some time composing complete sentences, with proper punctuation, so I can get my head around what you are trying to say. There are lots of people asking for help and I can't spend my time struggling to understand your poorly-worded or punctuated posts when I could be easily understanding and responding to others.
But, I think I figured out the last little bit: No, finding metal shavings under the valve cover doesn't mean you've thrown a rod. It doesn't prove that you haven't, but I doubt it.
I suspect you have multiple problems, one of which has to do with the throttle linkage. But since you haven't told us what the engine is nor if it is carb'd or EFI'd I can't go much further on that. As for the knock, losing power, and stalling we will just have to work on one problem at a time. But, you are going to have to spend some time composing complete sentences, with proper punctuation, so I can get my head around what you are trying to say. There are lots of people asking for help and I can't spend my time struggling to understand your poorly-worded or punctuated posts when I could be easily understanding and responding to others.
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I had put the petal to the metal and thats when it started acting up.
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What about the shavings,and the motor size?
Do all of the springs look "right". Im wondering if maybe you didnt break or have one fail and the knock could be piston hitting valve.
Do all of the springs look "right". Im wondering if maybe you didnt break or have one fail and the knock could be piston hitting valve.
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The shavings were found in the valve cover on the left side of the motor right side is perfectly fine though and the motor size is a 351 windsor.
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Then your probably looking at something from the cam up on that bank. Was it up and down the head or around one set of valves more. Are they fresh and shiny or old looking like baked on fuel and sludge built up.
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well they looked baked on fuel and there is a lot of sludge built up on them.
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