Notices
All Things Towing Conventional, 5th Wheel, Toy Hauler, Flatbed, Gooseneck, Electrical/Brakes/etc.

Mounting lights to hitch?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 3, 2013 | 06:12 AM
  #1  
kc0stp's Avatar
kc0stp
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 333
Likes: 0
From: Co
Mounting lights to hitch?

From a structural standpoint is it safe to run screws into the hitch to mount aux backup lights? With the flatbed theres no where to really mount lights that wouldnt stick out so was debating just screwing them into the hitch but wanted to make sure it wouldnt comprimise the hitch first.
 
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2013 | 07:35 AM
  #2  
senix's Avatar
senix
Super Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 37,383
Likes: 1,867
From: Frederick, MD
Club FTE Gold Member
I see no problem with that. You are not removing any steel worth mentioning when drilling a couple of screws.
 
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2013 | 11:03 AM
  #3  
SteveC7010's Avatar
SteveC7010
Junior User
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
From: Northville, NY
Originally Posted by kc0stp
From a structural standpoint is it safe to run screws into the hitch to mount aux backup lights? With the flatbed theres no where to really mount lights that wouldnt stick out so was debating just screwing them into the hitch but wanted to make sure it wouldnt comprimise the hitch first.
That horizontal square tube is a torsion bar. If you drill into it, you may weaken its ability to carry its full rated load. At one time, the hitch manufacturers had a notice about this on a sticker on the hitch and in the installation instructions. Drilling into it will definitely void the warranty on the hitch.

Instead, use stainless steel worm clamps around the bar to hold your aux backup lights in place.
 
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2013 | 11:13 AM
  #4  
senix's Avatar
senix
Super Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 37,383
Likes: 1,867
From: Frederick, MD
Club FTE Gold Member
Maybe we need pics of the proposed setup. I took it differently on where the mounting was to be.
 
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2013 | 01:02 PM
  #5  
TexasRebel's Avatar
TexasRebel
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,752
Likes: 5
From: Stillwater, OK
I took it as drilling holes into the frame of the receiver... Which would create concentration points for the moment that the receiver was not designed for.
 
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2013 | 10:44 AM
  #6  
maverick22's Avatar
maverick22
Laughing Gas
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 939
Likes: 1
From: Central Kansas
Originally Posted by TexasRebel
I took it as drilling holes into the frame of the receiver... Which would create concentration points for the moment that the receiver was not designed for.
I'm not an engineer, so correct me if I'm wrong - but it seems like so long as we're talking about a small hole (1/4" or less) and the correct size and grade of bolt/screw were used then stress wise, wouldn't it still act as one continuous plate? I would think the weight of the light would be negligible wouldn't it?
 
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2013 | 01:09 PM
  #7  
BPofMD's Avatar
BPofMD
FTE Legend
Veteran: Navy
15 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 65,938
Likes: 1,432
From: Millersville, MD
Club FTE Silver Member

I am SURE that screw is not going to be rated as strong as the hitch you are talking drilling into.......Now does it make sense?
 
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2013 | 01:53 PM
  #8  
thomabb's Avatar
thomabb
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,405
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by maverick22
I'm not an engineer, so correct me if I'm wrong - but it seems like so long as we're talking about a small hole (1/4" or less) and the correct size and grade of bolt/screw were used then stress wise, wouldn't it still act as one continuous plate?
No. And I am an engineer.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-1

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-6

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-8

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Mar 4, 2013 | 09:01 PM
  #9  
kc0stp's Avatar
kc0stp
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 333
Likes: 0
From: Co
Sounds like plenty of good reassons not to in my book, Ill wait untill I get the winch bumper/mount or devise some other method. Need to get my switch panel made/installed first anyways and for the record I can guarntee you the bolts would never match the rating of my class V hitch.
 
Reply
Old Mar 5, 2013 | 10:09 AM
  #10  
maverick22's Avatar
maverick22
Laughing Gas
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 939
Likes: 1
From: Central Kansas
Originally Posted by BPofMD
I am SURE that screw is not going to be rated as strong as the hitch you are talking drilling into.......Now does it make sense?
Originally Posted by thomabb
No. And I am an engineer.
Ok, fair enough. But I'm curious, can you explain why? For example, the tensile strength of plain carbon plate steel (assuming the hitch is carbon steel) is between 58 and 80,000 psi, a grade 8 bolt has a tensile strength of 150,000psi. And just to be clear, I was assuming as Senix was that we were hypothetically drilling into the 1/8" flat plate steel of the upper frame, not the square tubing of the hitch itself.

How about this as an alternative: Make a bracket that would mount using one of the existing frame mounting holes (sitting on the outside of the hitch, not against the frame) and bolt it up - using a longer bolt (of the same strength) if necessary and then mounting the light on that bracket?
 
Reply
Old Mar 5, 2013 | 02:55 PM
  #11  
Archion's Avatar
Archion
Logistics Pro
Veteran: Marine Corps
Photogenic
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,835
Likes: 106
From: Martinsburg, WV
Club FTE Gold Member
Or something like this... Just a quick example, there are many out there like this.

White Night Rear Lighting System, Truck SUV Reverse Lights

http://www.etrailer.com/Lights/Pilot...ve/CR-607.html
 
Reply
Old Mar 5, 2013 | 06:19 PM
  #12  
TexasRebel's Avatar
TexasRebel
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,752
Likes: 5
From: Stillwater, OK
This was the first image i found using a GIS of FEMA and Holes

notice how the holes change the stress profiles.

 
Reply
Old Mar 5, 2013 | 08:49 PM
  #13  
maverick22's Avatar
maverick22
Laughing Gas
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 939
Likes: 1
From: Central Kansas
Originally Posted by TexasRebel
This was the first image i found using a GIS of FEMA and Holes

notice how the holes change the stress profiles.
Ok, but what happens when that hole is tightly filled by an object (bolt) - particularly when that bolt is stronger than the surrounding material?

I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but this stuff intrigues me. Calc II killed my engineering dreams.
 
Reply
Old Mar 5, 2013 | 10:49 PM
  #14  
kc0stp's Avatar
kc0stp
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 333
Likes: 0
From: Co
Originally Posted by Archion
Or something like this... Just a quick example, there are many out there like this.

White Night Rear Lighting System, Truck SUV Reverse Lights

Ball Mount Hitch Light for 2" Hitches Pilot Automotive Lights CR-607
Good idea but after something that is controlled by switch vs reverse lights as I only want them on when needed vs everytime I reverse (currently have cheapie parts store mini fog lights, plan on adding some LED offroad lights to the headache rack)
 
Reply
Old Mar 6, 2013 | 07:53 AM
  #15  
thomabb's Avatar
thomabb
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,405
Likes: 4
Filling the hole with a bolt will not alter the effects of the hole in tension. The bolt is not actually joined to the surounding metal. For basically the same reason, the bolt will not help with fatigue due to flex.

Let's use a Twizzler for a demonstration. Take one straight out of the package and stretch it until it breaks. Take another one and drill a small hole through it, then stretch it until it breaks. It will take less force to snap, and will likely fail at the hole. Now take another, drill a small hole, then affix a small bolt through the hole. Stretch it until it breaks. Which one of the three was stronger? Did the third Twizzler break at the bolt?

The structure of the hitch is designed to take more load than it is rated for. The rating takes into account a safety factor. A couple small holes does not automatically mean structural failure, but you are eating into your safety factor.

And Calc II killed a part of me too. That part of my brain is still numb on cold mornings.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:14 PM.

story-0
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-3
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-5
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-7
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-8
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-9
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE