Hello, I have a 2007 f250 superduty v10 and was thinking of downsizing, any pros/cons on either the ecoboost engine vs. the 5.0, thanks for the input. I am looking at a used f150 4x4 , 2011 or 2012 with low mileage maybe.

 

Get a 5.0, they are cheaper and about the same mileage bro. I know anything will guzzle less than the V-10, great power but eeek!

 

I stay away from engines with turbos because they are an added expense. The turbo contiues to spin after you shut off your engine. And since the oil pump stops at that time the turbo is spinning without any forced lubrication.

The large industrial engines I deal with all use an independent oil pump that runs after the engine has stopped untill the turbo stops spinning. These turbos are much larger but the principle is the same.

 

Thank you guys for the input, I appreciate it.

 

I did the same thing as you are thinking about and don't regret it a bit. I had a 2005 F350 with a 6.0 and traded for an 11 F150 screw with a 5.0 and loved it until I drove a 13 F150 Eco boost! Needless to say I am driving the Eco boost now! Both F150's are have pretty much the same options, gears, tires,etc.the only diff. is the 13 has navigation and of course the Eco boost. Don't get me wrong the 5.0 is a great engine but the Eco pulls trailers so much better than the 5.0 it's not even funny. I don't think the mileage will change enough to notice but if it does get better great.
Don't worry about the turbos like in a previous post. The Eco boost isn't the first engine to have a turbo on it, they have been on gas or Diesel engines for years and millions of miles! Of the two 6.0's that I had the turbos were about the only thing that I didn't have trouble with!

 

Well first off what are you going to be towing? You can't go wrong with eiher the 5.0 or the ecoboost. I personally will be getting the ecoboost due to the low end torque and the ability to tow up to 11,200 lbs. The 5.0 can only tow up to 9500 lbs. with a 4x2, super crew, and a 6' bed (3.73 gearing). (XLT)

There have been no issues with the turbos as of yet for the ecoboost, just an intercooler issue I believe they have resolved. Some say they the ecoboost gets a tad better gas milage, however that is a very subjective subject. Good luck on your choice!

 

If I were looking for an Ecoboost, I most likely wouldn't go used unless I purchased an extended warranty..... only because some have had the intercooler and related issues. I believe these issues are not as wide spread as the internet would have us believe but bad luck follows good people sometimes.

If you could verify the build date, a late build 2012 new or used is safe. This issue had supposedly been completely resolved for 2013, I guess we will find out.

I have had no issues and I'd get another one tomorrow if I were looking.

The 5.0L is perhaps the least talked about truck engine in Ford's stable. It's sad as it's a great little engine and it's laying down some awesome numbers. But, it's not rated to pull over 10K and it needs to rev like crazy to do it.

My vote is for a new or late model used Ecoboost or a 5.0L of any vintage.

 

Well Prince, the heaviest thing is a 18ft Lund with a 75 Honda on it. It's not super heavy, i'm not sure of the specs right now on it. I owned a 95 f150 with the 302 5 litre, is that the same as we are speaking of with the newer f150's as well?

 

Both engines will work great for what you need it for. Really it's just the matter of getting the best deal. The rebates are a lot better on the 5.0 because of the popularity of the Ecoboost. So you may be able to find a new leftover 12' with a 5.0 and get it for the same price as a used 11' or 12' Ecoboost/5.0. I do have a 12' Ecoboost myself, and I love it. Zero problems so far with 12700 miles on it.

 

Well I would guess that boat weighs around 3,000 lbs. fully loaded with fuel and gear. If you are not planning on buying a trailer to tow then you really wouldn't need the max tow feature. I think Hawk and Tseekins both have good points. It is all a matter of preference at this point.

You owe it to yourself to go test drive them back to back and get a feel for how they both drive, sound, etc. The ecoboost is super quiet while the 5.0 has a certain growl. Both the 3.5L ecoboost and the 5.0L would pull that boat of yours like it wasn't even there and in comfort. Like also mentioned the 5.0L will also have more incentives than the Ecoboost which can save you even more money.

Here are the specs on the different motors:

The 3.5L (V-6) Ecoboost has 365 HP @5,000 rpm and 420 lbs-ft. torque @ 2500 rpm (that is not a typo great low end torque!!)

The 5.0L (V-8) has 360 HP @5500 rpm and 380 lbs.-ft. torque @ 4250 rpm.

For your reference the 3.7L (V-6) has 302 HP @6500 rpm and 278 lbs.-ft torque @ 4000 rpm.

You might also want to think about one with a back-up camera that will make your hooking up much easier.

I want the ecoboost for it's low end torque which will help at the boat ramps and also in the mountain areas. I also have the potential of towing a trailer in the future.

 

I've got a early '11 EB FX4 with 15M on it and haven't had a bit of trouble with it. I tow a 18 ft. Tyee with a 150 on it so it's a bit heavier than yours but still only about 3000 lbs fully loaded. The EB and 3.73 gears pull it like it's not even back there...much better than the '04 5.4L and 3.55's I had, which was still adequate. The low-end torque in the EB is awesome (more than the Hemi and at much lower RPMs') and Ford says you get 80% of your torque at around 1700 so it pulls like crazy at just above an idle and it maintains full-torque to around 5000. My gas mileage using mid-grade (89) runs in the 15-16 range with the boat on the back which beats the old 5.4 by 3+ mpg as long as I don't go over 70. I believe there are a good number of folks that have had or heard of turbo problems over the years and one of those problems was coking caused by fast shut-downs (thermal shock-they run very hot) but the EB has small turbo's and they are liquid cooled in addition to the oil cooling so Ford feels they've addressed the problem. I have a friend who is an advisor at a dealership and he has not heard of one problem with the turbos and i have an aquaintance who has 100M on an '11 and has had 0 problems. Having said all that, I'd suggest getting an extended warranty just in case. With all the technology in the truck, it could get expensive in a hurry. I won't knock the 5.0, it's been a pretty good engine but drive an EB and buy what suits you.

 

The new 5.0 and old 5.0 (302) are both gas powered V8's made by Ford. That is about the only things they have in common.

 

5.0s are great motors we use them in several of our work trucks but myself and one of my buddies I work with have ecoboost 150s we can easily say we wouldn't even consider trading love the ecoboost. He came from having diesel 350s and got tired of diesel problems and costs and he couldn't be happier with the switch this motor pulls like a mule and runs like a scalded dog.

 

Thank you all for the replys, i'll have to see what $ they are getting, thanks again for the great info.

 

I had a 2011 F350 6.7 PSD 4x4. Sold it when we sold our 5th wheel and got out of camping. Went with the EcoBoost. After 28k miles in 15 months, not one single warranty claim filed. It's never let me down and it tows my boat just fine. Not afraid of turbos as the EcoBoost design is very similar to the 6.7 design. Great truck. Only trips to the dealer have been for oil changes and tire rotate. Mileage is outstanding for a pickup.