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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 11:00 AM
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Power Window Motor Connector

I bought an aftermarket power window setup for my 56 some time ago and found that there was no mating connector included in the installation package. Upon further investigation I learned that the vendor did not have the mating connectors nor could they point me in the right direction to buy them. Instead of a mating connector they provided two spade terminals to slide over the "pins" inside the connector on the motor.

From what I have learned to this point, this is a Bosch connector which was most likely used on any number of OEM vehicles...I am thinking that European cars might be more likely candidates but I wouldn't put it past US OEMs to use them as well.

What I am asking is that anyone who has access to junked vehicles (Tacson) or anyone who works in a garage/shop and may come in contact with power window motors/wiring, take a look at the attached photo and see if you recognize this connector. If I can find a make and model of a car that this setup was used on, then I can buy the proper connector to finish the installation. Thanks...
 
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 05:21 PM
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Doesn't look familiar to me but I would find the model number and Google the goodness out of it. Something has to come up on epay?
 
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 06:41 PM
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You'll probably kick yourself as soon as I say this, but...

You have the part number, model number, manufacturer, etc of the motor right (something stamped on it)?
Head to your local parts shop, ask them to let you look at the books (paper books, not the computer). Find the listed applications out of the tech reference / cross reference in the book. Lot faster than hoping you get luck with an ole junk yard dog.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 06:50 PM
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I just helped a friend of my with his window on 2001 Chevy venture van and looked just like that.
maybe look at that on rock auto?
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Old Feb 9, 2013 | 08:16 AM
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Appreciate the help but I have spent hours chasing down manufacturers and part numbers...to no avail. I believe that the vendor who built these aftermarket electric window systems must have gotten a deal on the motors. The company who is listed on the label on the motor has merged with another company and they are in France. Big corporations usually are not setup to answer questions from end-users so I have yet to get any response from them. Bottom line is that the connectors used on these motors are specific to an automotive OEM, the manufacturer of the motors build them with the connector as specified by the buyer. BMW may be different from Audi which may be the same as Mercedes. I have checked many other motors and while they have somewhat similarly shaped connectors, none are a match for this one. Notice the 3 indexing slots inside the connector shell. This feature combined with the shape and the orientation of the pins are determining factors in finding the mating connector.
Another detail of this motor/connector is the fact that the connector snaps on to the motor. If I could find another motor with the same connection then I could use the whole connector and mating harness from that application. The last resort is to use the individual spade connections and fill the cavity with silicone to seal it up. I hate to go that route until I have exhausted any other means of getting the proper waterproof connector.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 01:05 AM
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maybe this
Standard Motor Products Power Window Motor Connector TX3A | eBay
 
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 05:30 AM
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I bought an aftermarket power window setup for my 56 some time ago and found that there was no mating connector included in the installation package. Upon further investigation I learned that the vendor did not have the mating connectors nor could they point me in the right direction to buy them. Instead of a mating connector they provided two spade terminals to slide over the "pins" inside the connector on the motor.

From what I have learned to this point, this is a Bosch connector which was most likely used on any number of OEM vehicles...I am thinking that European cars might be more likely candidates but I wouldn't put it past US OEMs to use them as well.

What I am asking is that anyone who has access to junked vehicles (Tacson) or anyone who works in a garage/shop and may come in contact with power window motors/wiring, take a look at the attached photo and see if you recognize this connector. If I can find a make and model of a car that this setup was used on, then I can buy the proper connector to finish the installation. Thanks...
I browse in the local pull your part yard quite often and I'll give a look to see if I can find what you need. (Same yard that Donald (Tacson) is connected with)

If you would take a picture of the whole motor and throw something familiar in the picture for size reference. Those indexing slots should be easy to spot.

It may be a few days before I go again......need to let some of the rain that has fallen latelly soak in the ground. Even though the salvage yard is all gravel, it's still kinda messy after a big rain.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 02:17 PM
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Thanks Keith and Drew, I chased down all the listings for the various aftermarket vendors with no luck. As for the size of this motor, it's the same size as virtually all the electric window motors that I have seen. In fact, I have a couple of good motors that I took out of the wife's Lincoln that would probably work just fine...and I would at least have an idea of where to look to get the mating connectors for them.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 04:31 PM
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Chuck I will try to look Saturday. Do me a favor email the pic to me and I will have it on my phone so when Im at the junkyard I can compare. It looks similiar to some BMW types. I will check for you.

Drewski if you beat me to it let me know.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 05:27 PM
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Done, thanks Donald!
 
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 02:40 AM
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I added power windows to my '07 Silverado Work Truck, and the stock motors that I used had this style connector. It's been a few years ago; I remember finding some connectors but they were outrageously expensive. I wound up just crimping some blade type connectors to go over those pins.

It's a Gerry rig, I know, but I haven't had any trouble with it coming off yet and it's been a few years now.

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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 08:54 AM
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Yep, that's the setup that the vendor included with the window kit...and it might be the way that I have to go as well. Luckily I have the material and know-how to fabricate a silicone insert to surround the spade terminals if necessary but it just seems a shame to have to circumvent the sealed connector. That section of the door can get a substantial amount of water passing through it, I would like to keep everything there as waterproofed as possible.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 09:14 AM
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I don't know how it is on yours, but that connector was pointed straight down on mine, so water wasn't as much of a problem.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 08:45 PM
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Yep, that's the setup that the vendor included with the window kit...and it might be the way that I have to go as well. Luckily I have the material and know-how to fabricate a silicone insert to surround the spade terminals if necessary but it just seems a shame to have to circumvent the sealed connector. That section of the door can get a substantial amount of water passing through it, I would like to keep everything there as waterproofed as possible.
Did you ever resolve this problem? I have made it to the salvage yard a couple times but haven't found anything like what you show in the picture. I'll keep poking around if you haven't come up with a solution. Sorry I didn't report back to you sooner.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 09:51 PM
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Thanks Drew...no I haven't found a mating connector yet. I spent a lot of time searching awhile ago and then got burnt out. I figured that by the time I get to the re-assembly phase for the cab that I will try again.
 
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