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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 03:54 PM
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351w nightmare

I've been having a lot of issues with my 91 351w. It has a new map sensor, idle air sensor, throttle position sensor, egr valve, vacuum lines, plugs, fuel filter, fuel pressure regulator, and still idles rough. Also it will buck down the road on occasion. I'm gonna try a pcv valve next. Everyone I talk to is stumped over it. It throws a light sparatically as well. Any ideas?
 
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 06:52 PM
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I've been having a lot of issues with my 91 351w. It has a new map sensor, idle air sensor, throttle position sensor, egr valve, vacuum lines, plugs, fuel filter, fuel pressure regulator, and still idles rough. Also it will buck down the road on occasion. I'm gonna try a pcv valve next. Everyone I talk to is stumped over it. It throws a light sparatically as well. Any ideas?
Check for codes. The PCM (computer) is trying to tell you something.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 07:09 PM
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Where can I go to pull codes? Do dealerships still do obd 1? I'm not very good with counting the blinks lol
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 08:41 AM
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Where can I go to pull codes? Do dealerships still do obd 1? I'm not very good with counting the blinks lol
Invest in one of these:
Equus 3145 Ford Digital Code Reader : Amazon.com : Automotive Equus 3145 Ford Digital Code Reader : Amazon.com : Automotive
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 09:22 AM
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So this will literally give me an actual code that all I have to do is look up? If so it's a life saver for around $30
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 09:38 AM
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So this will literally give me an actual code that all I have to do is look up? If so it's a life saver for around $30
Yes, it displays the codes for you:


And it comes with a book of code definitions. We can help you with that as well.

Some parts stores used to read OBD-I codes for free, but I think that is getting tougher to find. As far as a dealer, they may be able to but I would bet they may charge you for it or insist they get to fix the issue. Only a guess on my part.

Reading codes from flashes is not as bad as it may seem. It is the cheapest method going and the most reliable. Some folks report problems retrieving the codes using a reader. Most of the time it ends up being caused by corroded pins on the diagnostic data port. Easily resolved, but just a forewarning of what could happen.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 09:41 AM
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Well I'm going to buy one of these. It seems like a good 30$ to spend and could save a lot of headache. Plus I know a lot of people that I could help with it. I'm ok with the risk of it not being right.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 10:36 AM
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I bought one of those code readers and it does come with a Code book also. The best Money I have spent on my 93F150
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 10:52 AM
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This is just a curious question. But how specific are the codes? Do they just give you a general issue or zero in on what could be faulty
 
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Each code has a definition assigned to it, but the exact definition can (and usually does) change depending on when they were displayed (Key On Engine Off, Continuous Memory, Key On Engine Running).

As far as how accurate they are is also dependent on the root cause. The displayed Code is the result of an improper input to the PCM. This code is what the PCM THINKS is the issue. It's a great start to narrow down the problem and root cause, but it is not intuitive enough to know whether the flagged code is a bad sensor or open wire or ??
 
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You said new plugs and wire, what about the cap, rotor, PIP sensor, TFI module, and coil. Those will also effect your idle.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 11:50 AM
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I haven't done those yet. I've been planning to do it though
 
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Did you do the wires? I saw plugs in the OP but not wires. The wires are the biggest cause of problems when they age.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 12:46 PM
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I didn't only because. They looked to be fairly new when I bought the truck. But that was months ago. The whole truck needs a tune up bad
 
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 06:04 PM
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Well I got some codes pulled. Very vague though as to what the problem may be. I got 22o 23o 21o 24o. They all described parts that I've replaced being "out of range"
 
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