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Hello , well thers this 50's Ford Dump truck with a stake bed sitting around by my house. So I went over to it and popped the hood. The exhaust is nothing like ive seen before. Facing the engine , the driver side manifold comes toward you , crosses between the radiator and block , and connects to the passenger exh manifold , which exits out the back through a single exhaust. One of my buddys says its a 351 , but I dont know , its definatly a V8 , not a flathead. Thats all I know.
Also , I was wondering if I could switch out the transmission , its a floor shift and I dont really like my 3 on the tree tranny. It shifts freely , it needs to be rebuilt after sitting for a long time , but I was wondering since its a big truck , if it has a split axle or if its really low geared. I couldnt find anything indicating it was a split axle , so it looks good so far.
And , is there any custom bolt in buckets availble from a manufacture for a 51 F1 , I dont like the bench seats , and would like a nice system in my truck ( subs wont fit with that bench. ) I dont want to have to move the tank , but if thats what it comes to , then thats what its gonna come to.
Any help appreciated , thanks.
Also , I was wondering if I could switch out the transmission , its a floor shift and I dont really like my 3 on the tree tranny. It shifts freely , it needs to be rebuilt after sitting for a long time , but I was wondering since its a big truck , if it has a split axle or if its really low geared. I couldnt find anything indicating it was a split axle , so it looks good so far.
And , is there any custom bolt in buckets availble from a manufacture for a 51 F1 , I dont like the bench seats , and would like a nice system in my truck ( subs wont fit with that bench. ) I dont want to have to move the tank , but if thats what it comes to , then thats what its gonna come to.
Any help appreciated , thanks.
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I would guess that motor is a indeed a V8 Y-block and not a 351.
As far as the buckets go I have not heard of any bolt in buckets for these trucks. Most guys will find a a bench or pair of buckets they like and adapt the rails to fit the floor of the cab.
Hope some of this helps, not sure on the rear axle, someone else I'm sure can field that one.
As far as the buckets go I have not heard of any bolt in buckets for these trucks. Most guys will find a a bench or pair of buckets they like and adapt the rails to fit the floor of the cab.
Hope some of this helps, not sure on the rear axle, someone else I'm sure can field that one.
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You definately have a Y block and probably a 239. It is a pretty decent engine but expensive to get rebuild parts. They are available but expensive. I would refer you to the Ford Y Block page on the web. There you can find info on where to find your block ID number and how to decode it. Y blocks are notorious for oiling challenges at the drive train. The up side is that they are very torquey and sound great. Plus the starter makes a definitive sound as it engages.
Go to your glove box door on the inside of the door and see if you have a data plate for the truck. It will list tranny type, rear end type and ration and other wonderful thinga about your truck.
I do know the tranny should bolt up to an FE block motor..ie, 352 390 family. and changing one to floor shift is a fairly simple thing to do.
As cousing John Niolon says, start with a plan..plan the work, work the plan....otherwise you'll be waffling back and forth like the rest of us poor guys over which front suspension, which motor, which .... ad infinitum.
As for buckets, probably no commercially available mounting brackets. but see others postings via search.. Kai has done a nice job of fabbing brackets.
Sorry to be so long..
Best of luck
Big Hands
Go to your glove box door on the inside of the door and see if you have a data plate for the truck. It will list tranny type, rear end type and ration and other wonderful thinga about your truck.
I do know the tranny should bolt up to an FE block motor..ie, 352 390 family. and changing one to floor shift is a fairly simple thing to do.
As cousing John Niolon says, start with a plan..plan the work, work the plan....otherwise you'll be waffling back and forth like the rest of us poor guys over which front suspension, which motor, which .... ad infinitum.
As for buckets, probably no commercially available mounting brackets. but see others postings via search.. Kai has done a nice job of fabbing brackets.
Sorry to be so long..
Best of luck
Big Hands
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If the crossover pipe comes up and crosses at the top it's a Ford car/light truck style Y block.
If it is a 52 to mid 55 and crosses down about mid way its a Lincoln style Y block which was in the F7/700 and larger and often swapped into F6/600's. Stock was a 317 but the car 341/368 were common swaps. In later years Ford had its own Big Truck specific Y style block based on the Lincoln.
Pre 56 the VIN was on a plate in the glovebox, it includes the engine code. Later years were on the drivers A column.
If it is a 52 to mid 55 and crosses down about mid way its a Lincoln style Y block which was in the F7/700 and larger and often swapped into F6/600's. Stock was a 317 but the car 341/368 were common swaps. In later years Ford had its own Big Truck specific Y style block based on the Lincoln.
Pre 56 the VIN was on a plate in the glovebox, it includes the engine code. Later years were on the drivers A column.
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Well the engine currently in my 52 is a flathead , so would that transmission still bolt up? Im thinking of even getting the engine to run. If it runs , should it be able to bolt right into a 52 F1 compartment , or is there custom brackets I might need. Yes , its definantly the Ford Y-Block style. Ill have to take a look in the glove compartment. Ill try n get pics , just to show it , ideas , etc.
Thanks for the help , no worries BH , bigger the post , more info. (Most of the time).
Thanks for the help , no worries BH , bigger the post , more info. (Most of the time
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